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so anyway Jim Marrs if you've ever

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wondered even for a minute who actually

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killed JFK you might want to talk to our

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next speaker Jim Marrs is one of the

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leading advocates on the theory that

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President Kennedy was a victim of a deep

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conspiracy for over 30 years mr. Mars

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taught a course on the JFK assassination

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at the University of Texas at Arlington

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in 1989 his book crossfire the plot that

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killed Kennedy was published to to

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critical acclaim and was a New York

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Times best seller his book came became a

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basis for Oliver Stone's film JFK for

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which mr. Mars served as the chief

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consultant ladies and gentlemen welcome

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the view from Mars Jim Mars howdy hey

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come on y'all from Texas howdy

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now you're talking and I want to really

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thank all you folks that put that sign

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up outside of town you know I'm coming

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in and I see it it says welcome to Texas

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now I thought boy that's great now wait

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a minute I was born in Texas I still

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live in Texas what are they talking

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about yeah yeah I live up in rural Wise

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County about 50 miles northwest of Fort

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registered quarter chickens you know you

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know you know what a quarter chicken is

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right just 25 cents it's just cheap

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chickens I get rid of them but we need

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the eggs all right so here we are

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tonight know about UFOs but wait a

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minute I know Nick Pope asks the

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question what our government lied to us

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and I and my answer is only continually

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in fact if you go back we could spend a

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whole seminar for a couple of weeks

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talking about Waco Oklahoma City the

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Boston bombing Sandy Hook you know on

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and on but we ain't got time for that so

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let's go back and start

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with the granddaddy of them all the

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Kennedy assassination now I'm always

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they always say that I'm into conspiracy

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theories no I'm not I'm into fact okay

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and so we could talk for hours and hours

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here about the Kennedy assassination can

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them a lot

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the bullets trajectories ballistics

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tests autopsy foibles missing in

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evidence and you know so let's go back

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and play Sherlock Holmes and we're gonna

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start right now

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with the crime itself got a little

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machine here that supposedly works so

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I'm gonna just quickly run through some

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things that all you need to know about

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the Kennedy assassination what you need

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to know is that in connection with the

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assassination of 35th President of the

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United States there was fabrication of

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evidence suppression of evidence

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alteration of evidence destruction of

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evidence and intimidation and witnesses

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now folks these are crimes if you or I

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did this in connection with say a murder

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case we could be thrown into prison

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because under our legal system if we did

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all this we are accessories after the

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fact okay and here in Texas we've

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executed people who are accessories to

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murder the facts of the case show they

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didn't pull the trigger

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but they knew about it they handle the

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gun they handle the money they drove the

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getaway car and under the our legal

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system there is considered as guilty as

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the person that pulled the trigger so

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let's take a look at some of this

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evidence we've got fabrication of

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evidence best pieces of evidence they

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used at the time and I noticed we have a

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pretty good split audience here we've

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got some old farts like me who were

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probably alive and were there that

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weekend and then we got a lot of younger

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people who either you know we're just

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infants or we hadn't even been born in

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1963 it's hard for me to realize how

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much time has gone by because

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for 30 years I've taught a course on the

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Kennedy assassination at the University

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of Texas in Arlington and so every

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semester I looked at those newsreels all

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over again looked at the films

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photographs heard the witnesses and so

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to me the Kennedy assassination is still

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very fresh in my mind but to a lot of

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people it's not but you may recall one

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of the strongest pieces of evidence

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against the accused assassin Lee Harvey

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Oswald was when they said we have his

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fingerprints on the rifle what seemed

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dissension well let's take a look let's

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take a closer look that rifle was taken

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away from the hands of the Dallas police

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that the night of the assassination in

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shipped to Washington the very next day

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in this document signed by Jagger Hoover

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himself it says no latent prints of

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value were found on Oswald's rifle

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cartridge cases unfired cartridge the

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clip of the rifle or even the inner

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parts of the rifle so on Saturday

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there's no fingerprints on Sunday the

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rifle is shipped back to Dallas and on

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Monday morning the two FBI guys Vinson

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drain and Harrison carry the rifle over

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to Miller funeral home where they were

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pairing Oswald's body for burial this is

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the old Fort Worth press and they

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noticed an FBI team with a camera and a

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crime lab kit spent a long time in the

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morgue well wait a minute Oswald been

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alive for three days almost in police

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custody where they need to go the morgue

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for all Groody a wonderful guy who was

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the mortician at the time and when I was

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a young police reporter over in Fort

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over and over how he was there when the

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FBI came in and put Oswald's dead hand

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on the rifle and that night Henry Wade

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the District Attorney of Dallas casually

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mentions to the news media Oh have I

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mentioned we've got his fingerprints on

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the rifle is there a chain of evidence

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no is that legitimate evidence no also

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we find that they said they have these

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three empty shell cases

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and that there was one live round found

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in the mannlicher-carcano that I was

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well supposedly used in the

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assassination now here's what's

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interesting see the era's well

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particularly these you see there's a

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little crimp in the shoulder of the

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cartridge case on these three the one

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that was in the rifle and these two that

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they found on the sixth floor of the

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School Book Depository the FBI crime lab

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said that that is a peculiarity of the

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Oswald rifle when you cram the shell

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into the chamber it puts that little

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crimp on them notice the third cartridge

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does not have that Krim but it does have

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a little crimp up on the neck which if

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that was there when the thing was all

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together it would have been it wouldn't

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have been able to be fired so we got a

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problem with that pieces of evidence I

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might point out that originally the

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Dallas Police sheet and I may show this

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showed that they had only had two

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cartridge cases it was only about

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several days later when a dallas police

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official said oh oh that's right I I got

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a third cartridge case and I and I

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forgot about it and I carried it around

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my pocket how's that for a piece of

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evidence okay and of course this was

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after the government decided there were

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three shots so they had to have three

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cartridges here's what appears to be the

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same FBI document both of them signed by

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Vincente drained both of them with the

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same file number one of them released in

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1968 and it says that the paper found on

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the sixth floor of the scoop depository

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that they said was used by as well to to

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wrap the rifle in and smuggle it into

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the Book Depository matches the paper

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that was used for wrapping paper in the

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Book Depository and since Oswald worked

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there this is pretty incriminating

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evidence that he got some of this paper

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at work and he used it to wrap the rifle

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in but 1980 this document slips out it

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looks like the exact same documented set

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Vinick says that the paper found on the

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sixth floor does not match the wrapping

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paper at the School Book Depository you

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know so wait a minute and

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the FBI was asked well what's the deal

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with this copy over here and they came

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out in 1980 we were told by an FBI

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official that oh well that's a phony

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document how many other phony documents

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are in FBI files and men now you've got

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this newspaper clipping on us I had to

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get out of the Seattle Times because it

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never went anywhere else this is Gerald

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Custer he's not a conspiracy author he's

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not a researcher he is the navel

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technician that took the x-rays of

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president kid in his body

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at Bethesda Naval Hospital and he says

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today the photo these are fake x-rays

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that were being shown on the same podium

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with him was Floyd rebe Floyd Ruby is

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not a conspiracy theorist Ford rebe is

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the photographer who took the autopsy

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photographs of President Kennedy and

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what does he say he says that the doctor

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the photographs released by the National

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Archives are phony and not the

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photographs we took wait a minute so you

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know where's the real evidence and as

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you can see here the x-rays that the one

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that the National Archive so today show

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a huge defect in the right front portion

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of President Kennedy's skull and yet the

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autopsy photographs that area is

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perfectly okay some of these lying

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something's going on here and of course

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we've got the cockamamie single Bullet

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theory says well there was only three

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shots fired and we know one a miss

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because it nicked a guy named James

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Tague down standing down near the triple

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underpass and then you got to have one

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shot that hit Kennedy in the head so

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that only leaves one shot if there's

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only one shooter and yet how we're gonna

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explain these seven wounds to Kennedy

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and Connally oh well they explain it

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this way one bullet coming from 60 feet

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in the air strikes Kennedy at the third

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thoracic vertebra

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doesn't strike any bone but somehow

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courses upward through his body exits

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out his Adam's apple in his throat then

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somehow changes direction goes back down

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strikes Connally at the near the right

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armpit shatters his fifth rib comes out

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near his right nipple goes through the

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anterior topside of his wrist shattering

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the wrist bone and ends up in his left

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leg oh yeah anybody ever fired a gun how

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many times does the bullet bounced

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around inside that beer can it makes a

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hole straight through and here's the

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proof of that here's Commission exhibit

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399 oops come back the so-called magic

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bullet this is the bullet the government

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says actually caused the wounds to

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Kennedy and Connally including striking

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Connolly's fifth rib and shattering his

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wrist bone as we can see in the x-ray of

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governor Connolly's wrist you can see it

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broke that big wrist bone we also see

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these bright metal pieces okay there is

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more pieces of bullet metal that was

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still in Conley's arm when he finally

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passed away and was buried

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then his missing off the bullet that

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you're being toes and caused the wound

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and where was this bullet found it

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rolled off a stretcher at Parkland

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Hospital and they tried desperately to

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get the man who found it Daryl Tomlinson

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to say that it came off a Connally

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stretcher but he wouldn't do it and who

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was in Parkland Hospital about one

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o'clock Jack Ruby we have a photograph

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of him and we have several people in

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knew him well who said they saw him and

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in fact a TV news reporter that I

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interviewed told me that he and he knew

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a ruby had been in his club and he saw

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Ruby carrion TV equipment and slipping

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into the hospital so who planted that

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bullet probably Jack Ruby alteration of

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evidence this is very a little bit

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detailed and I hate to bore you with it

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but it's extremely important this is the

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President's Commission on the SAS nation

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of President Kennedy better known as the

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Warren Commission

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and this is walk walk ward and Paul

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public stenographers who were deposing

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James C Cadogan a fingerprint expert

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with the FBI now in his typed up thing

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we see that somebody has scratched out a

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whole section and when he's asked you

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know why exhibit 820 was not reprocessed

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I'm hard to see that only gas I guess

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and somebody's written in no this is a

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latent fingerprint issue and then

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they've scratched out the rest of his

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statement that is a crime right there

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it's a tamper with an official

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transcript so what he was he trying to

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cover up what he's covering up is is

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that and sure enough the Warren

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Commission followed through and in their

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in their report they said cadogan's that

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when they asked him why wasn't the

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exhibit 8:20 not repressor D silver and

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he said no there's a latent fingerprint

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matter so what was he covering up well

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because what we find out later is that

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what was axed out said that there was a

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big batch of evidence brought into the

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laboratory on November the 23rd that's

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the day after the Kennedy assassination

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that's the Saturday that they took all

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of the evidence away from the Dallas

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Police the night of the assassination

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and he said it's very large quality of

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evidence there were several agent

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examiner's to evaluate there was

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material there were supervisory

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officials that were representative or

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Internal Security Division

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so they every top FBI officials now are

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poring over all of the evidence with no

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chain of command no public oversight

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nobody to see what they might have been

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putting in there or taken out okay and

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it sure enough when you read the

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testimony of chief curry the Dallas

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police chief he says well on Friday

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evening we kept getting calls from

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Washington and asking us to send all the

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the evidence up there and captain Fritz

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who was in charge of the homicide

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investigation said well I'm

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on the conduct of investigation here we

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got to have people to identify the rifle

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we got to get taking statements how can

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I do that if you're going to take all

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the evidence away but curry finally says

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well there was somebody in high office

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requesting this and we finally agreed as

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a matter of trying to cooperate with

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them so they sent all of the evidence

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back to Washington he says talking to

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Jamie Rankin the senior counsel of the

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Warren Commission he says he says well

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Jay ever get that evidence back and he

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said well we're supposed to get some

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copies he said but no I never received

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any of that evidence back he said

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perhaps the Commission has it and J Lee

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Rankin the chief counsel of the Warren

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Commission said yes the Commission is

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still working with it now what does this

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mean this means that for three days

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before because it was Tuesday November

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the 25th that they had the news media

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announced they had a big meeting between

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the Dallas Police Chief the sheriff and

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the District Attorney the FBI and they

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called in the FBI because at the time

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this was not a federal crime the feds

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had no jurisdiction this was a Texas

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homicide but now on Tuesday following

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the Friday assassination they announced

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the FBI was taken over the case but in

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truth they had had all the evidence

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since the very day of the SAS nation

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with no chain of evidence no oversight

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no way of knowing what they did with it

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what they took out what they put in now

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do you understand why there is so much

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controversy over the evidence in the

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Kennedy assassination and there you have

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it in the Dallas Morning News on

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November the 22nd excuse me I think I

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said the 25th it was the 27th where they

384
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said the FBI takes over all the evidence

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in the Kennedy assassination yeah right

386
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okay now here's a picture I took myself

387
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before they closed off that six floor

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window

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this is before they turned it into the

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sixth floor museum which say that they

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say they're not trying to present any

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particular viewpoint and yet they

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like last off that whole corner of the

394
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6th floor so nobody can get to that

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window and look out of it and that's

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because what you find is that it's only

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a foot away off the floor that's the

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floor and the wind is only a foot off of

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air and then the window was opened about

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half way like this so you just got this

401
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little bitty narrow object a line of

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sight there's two two-inch pipes to the

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immediate left of the window which is

404
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going to create a problem for anybody

405
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trying to aim off down Elm Street but

406
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the key thing is is that where this

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overhead sign is and it was not there in

408
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1963 but it is today that's where the

409
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first shots were fired and you can see

410
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the problem there's a tree intervening

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in the line of sight but they don't want

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you to see that but if you ever get to

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Dallas and get to Debbie Plaza watch the

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traffic please but right at the middle

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of Elm Street and then look back up at

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the sixth floor window and you won't be

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able to see it because that tree was

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trimmed back for a TV special in the 70s

419
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it was trimmed back again for the Oliver

420
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Stone movie and today it's in

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essentially the same configuration that

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it was in in 1963 and you can't get a

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line of sight from that window to the

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point in the street where the shots are

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fired today and you couldn't in 1963

426
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this is what I was mentioning earlier

427
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the Warren Commission shows us this

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Commission exhibit - whatever it is - 33

429
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and it shows that they found 26.5 spent

430
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rounds and yet in 1991 when I went over

431
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to Dallas and they had opened up their

432
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police files and I found the original

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dice police evidence sheet I noticed

434
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that they only had two and it's been

435
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changed to three by the Warren

436
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Commission so they only had two

437
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cartridges at the time but as I

438
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mentioned one of them suddenly turned up

439
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:43,450
days later would never have been

440
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admitted in a court of law

441
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he also noticed that the bottom of the

442
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Warren Commission document is blank but

443
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the original Dallas police evidence

444
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sheet says paraffin test made on Oswald

445
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was positive on both hands and negative

446
00:20:02,849 --> 00:20:00,249
on the face this is evidence he did not

447
00:20:04,949 --> 00:20:02,859
fire a rifle that day because after his

448
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arrest they took him police headquarters

449
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they put paraffin hot paraffin on his

450
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hand and on his cheek okay and I've got

451
00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:14,109
a copy of the paraffin test report in my

452
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not gun powder but they found some

453
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evidence on his hands but no gunpowder

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or nitrates on his face only traces of

455
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nitrates on his hand and you can get

456
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nitrates from any number of things

457
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including book printing ink and of

458
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course we know that he worked at the

459
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Book Depository it was carrying book

460
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boxes around all morning so that could

461
00:20:46,139 --> 00:20:44,079
explain the nitrates but there's no

462
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gunpowder on his hands and the key thing

463
00:20:50,329 --> 00:20:48,519
is no gun powder on his face why is that

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critical because any of you who own

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bolt-action rifles you know what I'm

466
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going to say to be able to fire three

467
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rounds in six seconds and since it takes

468
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two seconds just to the bolt and

469
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pull the trigger the three is the

470
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maximum number of shots you could fire

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in six seconds and that doesn't even

472
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count regaining your sight picture take

473
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a name that's just bank banks and you

474
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cannot lower it to do this you don't

475
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have to keep it right up here and when

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you open that bolt boom you're gonna be

477
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hit with nitrates and gunpowder but he

478
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had none evidence that he had not fired

479
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a gun and yet the Warren Commission they

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instead of explaining what that is or

481
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perhaps why it didn't matter they just

482
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delete it and hide it from you you have

483
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all the doctors at Parkland all of them

484
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and they all said the kennedy had a

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gaping wound in the right rear portion

486
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of his head well that indicates an exit

487
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wound

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and yet when the government showed us

489
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these drawings where's the gaping hole

490
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that's not there what it did show was

491
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this what they said at the time was the

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entrance wound that bullet hole in the

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back of his head and yet when the

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autopsy photographs finally were

495
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released we see that there wasn't a

496
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bullet hole there it's just

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little piece of dried hair or something

498
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you can see a hair growing through it

499
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it's not a bullet hole in fact commander

500
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Humes who was in charge of the autopsy

501
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when he was shown that photograph he

502
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said well I don't look like anything I

503
00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:29,520
saw the autopsy official autopsy sheet

504
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states that he was hit at the third

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thoracic vertebra which is my stubby

506
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fingers right here between your shoulder

507
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blades a little bit to the right of the

508
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backbone and on the autopsy face sheet

509
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that's exactly where it shows the wound

510
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and this is the one the Warren

511
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Commission published and they said oh

512
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well as just a general drawing it's not

513
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really accurate and but yet what did

514
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they leave out on the original face

515
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sheet we see verified by doctor George

516
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Berkeley Kennedy's personal physician

517
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so rather than know that that's where

518
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the back wound was they took they took

519
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this out so they could say oh well you

520
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:15,210
know actually is up on the neck and yet

521
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:17,340
his coat shows the bullet hole exactly

522
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where the autopsy showed third thoracic

523
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vertebra tween the shoulder blades to

524
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the ride of the backbone now they argue

525
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well his coat rode up you know he's

526
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waving and his coat kind of bunched up

527
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in the hole in the code is actually much

528
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lower than where it actually struck I

529
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:35,580
think that's cockamamie but let's assume

530
00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:36,510
that's true

531
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here's his shirt your shirt doesn't rise

532
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:41,670
up that much in the hole is exactly the

533
00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:44,820
same place and again here's how they

534
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,080
held a meses around there's the hole in

535
00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:51,600
his jacket and yet over here when they

536
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:53,580
show the drawing of the autopsy and

537
00:23:57,650 --> 00:23:55,770
here's a bullet hole in his back and now

538
00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:57,660
it's not it's not between the shoulder

539
00:24:01,370 --> 00:23:59,490
blades at third threads vertebra and

540
00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:01,380
he's not really in the neck it's kind of

541
00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:04,500
up in the shoulder straps okay and what

542
00:24:09,860 --> 00:24:07,740
I love is if this was Kenny's body and

543
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:09,870
if there was a true bullet hole right

544
00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:11,910
here where they said it was they've got

545
00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:16,470
it covered up with a ruler now this is

546
00:24:21,050 --> 00:24:18,900
interesting if you'll read my new

547
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,060
version of crossfire I publish these

548
00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:23,440
pictures and some other things too

549
00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:26,590
and this is the supporter frames 257

550
00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:29,230
which shows what the back of Kennedy's

551
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:31,780
head looked like in normal light the

552
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:34,150
reflection the Sun off the top of his

553
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:36,670
head is here and now we see three it's

554
00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:39,730
357 which there is a very obvious black

555
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:42,220
blob that has been painted onto the back

556
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,890
of his head to cover up that gaping

557
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:47,200
wound that was so obviously an exit

558
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:50,050
wound if you'll read my new crossfire

559
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:53,650
you'll find that not only have several

560
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,530
people who worked on this film the very

561
00:25:01,140 --> 00:24:58,960
weekend of the assassination before it

562
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,150
was turned over at a time life and kept

563
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:03,520
hidden from the public for 15 years

564
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:07,510
before it was made public but that they

565
00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:12,520
also also there are 11 Hollywood experts

566
00:25:17,310 --> 00:25:16,420
in video and special effects and some of

567
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:17,320
them who have worked in the industry

568
00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:20,710
dating back to the 40s who said this was

569
00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:24,940
obviously a artificial artifact in fact

570
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:26,980
they said it was kind of crude and it

571
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:29,170
had been painted on so you can't even

572
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:31,510
trust the Zapruder film that is not

573
00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:33,970
necessarily an accurate picture of what

574
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:36,460
happened because it's been tampered with

575
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:39,390
and who had control of the Zapruder film

576
00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:55,390
only the US federal government is

577
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:57,670
greased hair and here's Roy Kellerman

578
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:01,260
and here's the same intensity of light

579
00:26:08,430 --> 00:26:05,890
reflecting off of his hair and you can

580
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:08,440
see that Kellerman's hands are on the

581
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:16,000
steering wheel and so it didn't happen

582
00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:18,900
okay but that does not necessarily

583
00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:21,670
exonerate the Secret Service the driver

584
00:26:26,490 --> 00:26:24,220
Grier was the oldest member of The

585
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:26,500
Secret Service detail and he had served

586
00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:29,110
three other presidents besides Kennedy

587
00:26:34,570 --> 00:26:31,750
so his loyalty was to his service not

588
00:26:38,169 --> 00:26:34,580
necessarily the president he was serving

589
00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:38,179
and contrary to his testimony to the

590
00:26:41,649 --> 00:26:40,100
Warren Commission which was he didn't

591
00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:41,659
even know the assassination happened

592
00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:43,460
he's just driving along and then

593
00:26:47,169 --> 00:26:45,230
coverman next to him said we've been hit

594
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:47,179
get us out of here and that he never

595
00:26:51,789 --> 00:26:49,730
looked back and then he then stepped on

596
00:26:53,769 --> 00:26:51,799
the accelerator and and accelerated the

597
00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:53,779
car out of the plaza which is according

598
00:26:57,610 --> 00:26:55,940
to Secret Service regulation first sign

599
00:27:00,940 --> 00:26:57,620
of trouble you hit the gas and you get

600
00:27:02,289 --> 00:27:00,950
out of there okay and but as you can see

601
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:02,299
here it's not true

602
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:05,630
from this film and the next film as the

603
00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:09,230
car comes down the incline on Elm Street

604
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:11,720
and the first shots ring out the brake

605
00:27:16,659 --> 00:27:13,490
lights come on and the car slows to

606
00:27:18,090 --> 00:27:16,669
almost a complete stop and Grier turns

607
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:18,100
and looks back over his right shoulder

608
00:27:23,529 --> 00:27:21,110
right directly at Kennedy until after

609
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:23,539
the fatal head shot and then only then

610
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:25,970
does he face for it and lights go off

611
00:27:33,549 --> 00:27:31,279
and the car accelerates and this is this

612
00:27:36,129 --> 00:27:33,559
is what Daley Plaza looks like from the

613
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:36,139
air now today of course some of you may

614
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:38,210
have been lulled by some of these TV

615
00:27:45,129 --> 00:27:43,010
specials were and even books like Gerald

616
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,139
Posner Zhai believe where they where

617
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,880
they say well we've done a computer

618
00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:49,760
analysis okay well this is very

619
00:27:56,889 --> 00:27:53,929
important here is my computer simulation

620
00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:56,899
okay it's a shot came from the sixth

621
00:28:00,039 --> 00:27:58,370
floor depository went right through the

622
00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:00,049
middle of the tree hits sign bounced

623
00:28:07,299 --> 00:28:03,080
back hit Kennedy in the throat okay hey

624
00:28:09,460 --> 00:28:07,309
don't laugh a computer did that okay we

625
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:09,470
all know computers garbage in garbage

626
00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:13,039
out you can program a computer to do

627
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,100
anything you want okay and if you look I

628
00:28:25,299 --> 00:28:21,440
went in interviewed and some years ago

629
00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:25,309
both Chester Brennaman who was an

630
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,070
associate of Robert West and I

631
00:28:32,169 --> 00:28:29,600
interviewed Robert West who was the

632
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,179
county surveyor of Dallas County both

633
00:28:35,289 --> 00:28:34,159
those men were hired by time-life on

634
00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:35,299
Monday following the Friday

635
00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:38,120
assassination to do survey work in Davie

636
00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:40,870
plaza to determine distances elevations

637
00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:44,270
all kinds of things trajectories and

638
00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:46,340
they said number one they work with

639
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:48,140
Secret Service and at the time

640
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:50,090
everyone concerned said there's no way

641
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:54,080
one person did all this and magista

642
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:55,610
Brindavan told me that while they were

643
00:29:00,490 --> 00:28:57,290
working on this and working out of some

644
00:29:03,070 --> 00:29:00,500
rooms in the Adolphus Hotel he noticed

645
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:03,080
one of the guys from Life magazine was

646
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:06,110
wearing a bulletproof vest and he said

647
00:29:09,550 --> 00:29:07,970
Lee you know what's that for and he guy

648
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:09,560
said my life's not worth a plug nickel

649
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:13,910
on this deal okay and then in the spring

650
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:17,330
of 64 both Brennaman and Bob West were

651
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:19,430
hired again to do the survey work for

652
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:21,170
the official government Warren

653
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,740
Commission and they both told me and

654
00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:26,720
confirmed to me that the Warren

655
00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:29,630
Commission altered their numbers and

656
00:29:34,510 --> 00:29:32,270
here you can see the original plat map

657
00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:34,520
that Chester Brennaman allowed me to

658
00:29:40,210 --> 00:29:38,030
copy and if they even mentioned that

659
00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:40,220
this area which is where one of the far

660
00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:43,340
shots it is ahead behind tree for any

661
00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:46,340
shot from the depository as a May 64

662
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:49,160
they also show here's an area Burnett

663
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:50,750
bullet shot on the curb there's another

664
00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:52,310
shot where did that one come from

665
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:54,740
and then they noticed the yellow mark on

666
00:30:00,010 --> 00:29:57,170
the curb yellow mark on the curb if you

667
00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:00,020
go to DD Plaza today and go over to the

668
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:01,870
SAS out of Elm Street and go down

669
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,830
approximately where the headshot took

670
00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:06,080
place you're gonna still find traces of

671
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:09,590
yellow paint on the curb curbing there

672
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:12,040
and this is quite interesting because

673
00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:14,810
there's it's it's only apparently was

674
00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:17,030
about a stripe of about two feet and

675
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:19,340
then there's about ten feet space and

676
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:21,650
then there's another two-foot stripe of

677
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:23,840
yellow paint and if you'll slow down the

678
00:30:27,340 --> 00:30:25,250
Zapruder film and watch it very

679
00:30:30,490 --> 00:30:27,350
carefully you'll see the bright yellow

680
00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:30,500
streak by so on the day the SAS nation

681
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:32,870
these two little stripes on the south

682
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:34,850
side of Elm Street were bright yellow

683
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:37,280
painted but what's that all about I

684
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,190
checked with the Dallas City and

685
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:42,080
restraint people and they said no we

686
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:43,970
never did anything like that and you can

687
00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:46,190
stop and think about it if they wanted

688
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,560
to paint the curb yellow - like caution

689
00:30:52,390 --> 00:30:50,720
they think the whole curb right not just

690
00:30:55,030 --> 00:30:52,400
a little strip here a little strip there

691
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:55,040
and what happened right in between those

692
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:57,700
two yellow strips the fatal head shot

693
00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:00,720
this was marking the kill zone

694
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:03,870
for multiple gunmen using triangulation

695
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:06,750
of fire to catch Kennedy in it kills

696
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:11,850
them here's where they you can see the

697
00:31:17,299 --> 00:31:14,760
numbers were altered by the Warren

698
00:31:21,289 --> 00:31:17,309
Commission now what this means is is

699
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:21,299
that any computer simulation that you

700
00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:23,640
see from now on that is based on the

701
00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:27,179
government figures is wrong and you know

702
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:29,400
if you're off by the sixteenth of an

703
00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:31,470
inch up here by the time you get out to

704
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:33,900
one hundred feet you know you're off

705
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:37,289
twenty thirty yards so you cannot put

706
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,570
any confidence in any computer

707
00:31:44,419 --> 00:31:42,000
simulation if they're using government

708
00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:44,429
figures which we I just showed you have

709
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:47,159
been altered now we do know that Life

710
00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:51,090
magazine came out in February of 64 with

711
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:54,600
this picture of Oswald and the title Lee

712
00:32:00,260 --> 00:31:57,450
Oswald with the weapons he used to kill

713
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:00,270
President Kennedy and officer Tivat this

714
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:02,610
is February of 64 Thorne Commission had

715
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:05,100
just gotten underway they didn't come

716
00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:06,990
out with their report until September of

717
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:09,780
64 how's that for guilty until proven

718
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:13,980
innocent and if you look at the backyard

719
00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:15,570
photograph you'll find some real

720
00:32:19,010 --> 00:32:16,340
problems

721
00:32:21,289 --> 00:32:19,020
Oswald as you can see from his Dallas

722
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,299
police mugshot had a little sharp cleft

723
00:32:26,510 --> 00:32:23,760
chin and yet the picture in the backyard

724
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:26,520
shows him with a broad flat chin and

725
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:29,159
there's a line and the break in the

726
00:32:33,260 --> 00:32:31,470
emulsion he goes from one scorner of his

727
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:33,270
neck to the other corner of his neck and

728
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:36,179
this is right out of well Fritz's report

729
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:37,500
that's published right in the Warren

730
00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:40,880
Commission he said this picture has been

731
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:44,760
enlarged from the crime lab and and

732
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,100
Oswald said the picture was not his that

733
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,960
the face was his face but this picture

734
00:32:53,149 --> 00:32:51,360
had been made by someone superimposing

735
00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:53,159
his face and the other part of the

736
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:54,900
picture was not him at all and that he

737
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,940
had never seen the picture before that's

738
00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:59,039
right the Warren Commission report of

739
00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:01,020
course we all nobody read that and

740
00:33:05,270 --> 00:33:02,820
everybody thought as well as guilty so

741
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:05,280
never mind what he said but what then is

742
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:06,570
there any proof that what he said was

743
00:33:13,290 --> 00:33:11,120
true well here we've got the two

744
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:13,300
pictures of the backyard that were found

745
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:15,050
supposedly in the you know outlaws

746
00:33:22,930 --> 00:33:18,650
belongings at the Payne home and they're

747
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:22,940
labeled 133 a up here and then 133 B

748
00:33:28,690 --> 00:33:27,050
over here and if you make them into it

749
00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:28,700
supposedly these are two separate

750
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:30,620
pictures taken with a handheld camera

751
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:33,170
and if you remember the old handheld

752
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,970
cameras that you look down into you know

753
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:36,320
you look and you take a picture and then

754
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:38,450
you Road roll the film and you take it

755
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:41,270
again okay nothing in those photographs

756
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:44,480
should match and yet when they're made

757
00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:46,730
into a blue and red transparency and

758
00:34:02,860 --> 00:33:48,740
laid one on top of each other you rather

759
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:02,870
come back this is impossible with a

760
00:34:07,690 --> 00:34:05,600
handheld camera unless oswald was

761
00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:07,700
telling you the truth and it's his face

762
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:10,670
pasted on somebody else's body somebody

763
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:14,210
with a broad chin suppression of

764
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:17,870
evidence a lot of you remember from the

765
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:19,460
Zapruder film you see jackie kennedy

766
00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:21,260
crawled back on the rear deck of the car

767
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:23,180
and then crawled back into the car and

768
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:25,250
Clint Hills trying to hang on as the car

769
00:34:29,590 --> 00:34:28,130
accelerates and of course that's been

770
00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:29,600
the subject of a lot of misinformation

771
00:34:35,110 --> 00:34:32,780
for years they say mrs. Kennedy was

772
00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:35,120
trying to escape the car they say Clint

773
00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:36,620
Hill was and you grabbed her and pushed

774
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:38,870
her back in there this is not true at

775
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,170
all the truth of this little episode was

776
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:44,240
that Jackie Kennedy crawls on the rear

777
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,930
deck of the car braces herself with her

778
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:49,760
left hand and reaches out with the right

779
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:51,290
hand and takes a piece of the

780
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:53,690
president's skull cups it in her hand

781
00:34:57,790 --> 00:34:55,550
and comes back into the car under own

782
00:35:00,340 --> 00:34:57,800
power with Clint Hill just hanging on

783
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:00,350
for dear life and we know this is true

784
00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:03,560
because dr. pepper Jenkins at Parkland

785
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,030
Hospital in the Warren Commission

786
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:08,000
testimony he said Jackie Kennedy looked

787
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:09,890
shell-shocked as she circled circle I

788
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:11,450
noticed her hands were cupped in front

789
00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:13,370
of her as if she was cradling something

790
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:15,140
as she passed by she nudged me with an

791
00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:17,180
elbow and handed me what she'd been

792
00:35:21,490 --> 00:35:19,340
nursing in her hands a large chunk of

793
00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:21,500
her husband's brain tissue how quickly

794
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:22,520
handed it to an

795
00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:26,570
and he'll tells the same thing okay now

796
00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:29,350
that's quite an emotional human and in

797
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:34,580
you know a vivid account while the

798
00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:36,680
confusion and why haven't people been

799
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:39,380
told about this because if Jackie

800
00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:41,300
Kennedy crawled on the rear deck of the

801
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:42,860
car and picked up a piece of his brain

802
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:46,330
that indicates a shot from the front

803
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:48,710
because he'd be shot from the front it

804
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:50,450
would go to the rear if he shot from the

805
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:52,130
rear as we're told it would all go to

806
00:35:58,930 --> 00:35:55,450
the front it didn't happen

807
00:36:01,600 --> 00:35:58,940
okay even the snipers windows got

808
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:01,610
changed the Warren Commission showed us

809
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:03,650
this picture and said that's what the

810
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:05,690
sniper's nest looked like but the Dallas

811
00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:08,660
news that very day ran this picture over

812
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:10,220
here which is a different configuration

813
00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:14,690
and then the Studebaker the FBI guy who

814
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:16,550
was taking the pictures for the Warren

815
00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:18,950
Commission testified under oath and yeah

816
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:21,350
he in as late as Monday he was taking

817
00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:23,150
some of those pictures and he had moved

818
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:26,420
those boxes all around worthless as

819
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:34,160
evidence in 2004 I was working with the

820
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:38,270
Japanese TV crew and they asked me some

821
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:40,070
questions I answered and asked him if

822
00:36:45,010 --> 00:36:42,710
they would send me a type of the of

823
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:45,020
their program and they did and I found

824
00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:46,730
it very interesting even though it was

825
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:50,060
in Japanese I'm speaking Japanese but

826
00:36:59,920 --> 00:36:56,480
they also obviously had a whole section

827
00:37:02,500 --> 00:36:59,930
on the Sabri famine the fact that just

828
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:02,510
is just as Kennedy's car is coming

829
00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:04,130
towards the Stemmons freeway sign

830
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:07,550
there's a very obvious break in the film

831
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:10,850
and there's about six frames missing

832
00:37:16,330 --> 00:37:14,060
there and I was well aware of this as

833
00:37:18,130 --> 00:37:16,340
was a lot of the researchers and we had

834
00:37:20,349 --> 00:37:18,140
always thought that time-life had

835
00:37:23,290 --> 00:37:20,359
probably cut those frames out to

836
00:37:25,690 --> 00:37:23,300
compress the time frame of the superior

837
00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:25,700
film so that they could try to support

838
00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:28,340
that cockamamie single Bullet theory but

839
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:31,700
it turns out that the Japanese Asahi

840
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,410
television was able to find

841
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:38,400
a version of the sewer film that had not

842
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:42,000
been cut in fact they found a friend of

843
00:37:46,279 --> 00:37:44,730
Jim Garrison's in California who had a

844
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:46,289
copy and then they found another

845
00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:48,930
researcher in Dallas who also had a copy

846
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,349
without the splice and they subjected

847
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,720
this to analysts by people in Poland and

848
00:37:58,970 --> 00:37:57,119
in the UK and guess what they found out

849
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:58,980
there was a bullet strike on the

850
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:01,200
Stemmons freeway sign that's what got it

851
00:38:06,620 --> 00:38:04,020
out here's another shot so now we got a

852
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:06,630
shot in the street we got a shot you

853
00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:09,150
know to Kennedy a shot to Connally shot

854
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:11,880
to James Tague a shot on the manhole

855
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:15,000
cover now a shot to the sign now we got

856
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:17,460
six or seven shots being fired obviously

857
00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:20,609
could not have been done by one man also

858
00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:24,750
never explained is the Dallas news my

859
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:27,390
counterpart our old Goltz and was

860
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:29,130
writing for the Dallas news was writing

861
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:31,530
for the Star Telegram and he interviewed

862
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:34,020
a lot of people including Dallas police

863
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:36,000
officers who in the aftermath of the

864
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:37,770
assassination encountered men in suits

865
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:40,260
flashing Secret Service identification

866
00:38:44,210 --> 00:38:42,569
and saying don't come back here it's all

867
00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:44,220
taken care of or nothing happening back

868
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,859
here who were these people because

869
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:48,960
officially all the Secret Service agents

870
00:38:52,819 --> 00:38:50,730
were either at the Dallas Trade Mart or

871
00:38:54,650 --> 00:38:52,829
riding in the motorcade there's never

872
00:38:56,359 --> 00:38:54,660
been any effort to find out who were

873
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,369
these people that had Secret Service

874
00:39:01,220 --> 00:38:58,920
identification it was apparently good

875
00:39:03,859 --> 00:39:01,230
enough to even fool a Dallas policeman

876
00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:03,869
interestingly enough again buried way

877
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:05,880
back in a pendens of the Warren

878
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:08,190
Commission report you find that none

879
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:10,260
other than Lee Harvey Oswald had an

880
00:39:18,049 --> 00:39:15,260
encounter he says that as he was

881
00:39:20,029 --> 00:39:18,059
standing in front of school but textbook

882
00:39:23,809 --> 00:39:20,039
building and about to leave at a young

883
00:39:26,049 --> 00:39:23,819
crew-cut man rushed up to him and said

884
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:26,059
he was from the Secret Service

885
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:29,250
showed a book of identification asking

886
00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:31,650
where the phone was Oswald said he

887
00:39:36,529 --> 00:39:34,349
pointed toward the payphone in the

888
00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:36,539
building and that it was that he saw the

889
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:39,660
man actually go to the phone before he

890
00:39:44,539 --> 00:39:42,569
left and that pretty amazing okay we're

891
00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:44,549
told that less an hour later Oswald

892
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,470
stopped by a policeman out in South Oak

893
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:48,480
Cliff and he guns him down

894
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:50,730
here he's encountered a man who shows

895
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:52,770
him a book of identification says he's

896
00:39:56,810 --> 00:39:55,170
Secret Service and he calmly shows him

897
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:56,820
where the telephone is and then stood

898
00:40:01,400 --> 00:39:58,410
around to make sure the guy got to the

899
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:01,410
phone and of course now they try to

900
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:03,540
argue that well that was just a reporter

901
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:05,880
well excuse me I was a reporter at that

902
00:40:10,099 --> 00:40:07,980
time and yes I carried a press card and

903
00:40:12,530 --> 00:40:10,109
yes sometime I stuck at my hat just like

904
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:12,540
you see in all the old movies you know

905
00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:16,260
or I'd flash it but nobody I knew ever

906
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:18,540
had a book of a dedication who has a

907
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:20,430
book of identification the leather

908
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:23,640
folder with a badge and the ID the FBI

909
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,050
the Secret Service okay so again we're

910
00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:30,480
being lied to right down the line again

911
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:32,340
we're back to the backyard photograph in

912
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,170
what you're probably unaware of is that

913
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:37,440
the two photographs that they found that

914
00:40:44,330 --> 00:40:41,250
weekend at 1:33 a and B there's a third

915
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,340
photograph that turned up 15 years later

916
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:47,040
in the hands of a Dallas policeman's

917
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:49,650
widow whose husband worked at the photo

918
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:51,690
lab for the Dallas Police Department and

919
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:53,670
left that photograph with her and told

920
00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:55,380
her to hang on to it that it probably be

921
00:41:01,340 --> 00:40:57,270
worth something someday

922
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:01,350
so in this photograph we see no comeback

923
00:41:10,099 --> 00:41:06,450
we see that Oswald came back where my

924
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:10,109
thing is there we go and I'm going to

925
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:13,770
get smaller fingers okay we can see that

926
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:16,290
see the pose got the rifle his left hand

927
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:18,090
the Communists paper in the right hand

928
00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:21,630
and yet the Warren Commission exhibit 37

929
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:24,540
look what pose they use they use the

930
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:27,119
same pose as the backyard photograph

931
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:29,250
that was missing for 15 years and

932
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:31,710
suppressed from the public and why was

933
00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:34,020
it suppressed because when it's brought

934
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:36,780
up to the same proportion and it's laid

935
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,700
over the face the face on all three

936
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:40,880
photographs the face of Oswald match

937
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:44,400
exactly I could what he said his face

938
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:48,119
was pasted on somebody else's body and

939
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:50,700
just to show you how cockamamie the

940
00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:53,490
single Bullet theory is here's Arlen

941
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,510
Specter demonstrating the single Bullet

942
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:59,280
theory he says well it went through

943
00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:00,400
Kennedy's name

944
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:02,200
and then it went down and struck

945
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:06,700
Connelly and but notice coming back you

946
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:10,060
notice he they almost accurately marked

947
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:12,040
the spot of the bullet in Kennedy's back

948
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,650
down by the shoulder blades and and

949
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Arlen Specter has to hold his

950
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:18,850
straightedge up about six inches off the

951
00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:22,360
guy's shoulder to make it work they knew

952
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:25,600
at the time it didn't work in fact here

953
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:28,660
is a page from the transcript of the

954
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:30,370
Warren Commission meeting of January the

955
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:34,540
27th 1964 page 193 and this keep in mind

956
00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:36,700
this is even before they started doing

957
00:42:40,590 --> 00:42:38,830
any serious investigation they were just

958
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:40,600
getting organized and their chief

959
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:43,300
counsel J Lee Rankin says well it seems

960
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:44,770
quite apparent now since we have a

961
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,270
picture of where the bullet entered the

962
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:48,160
back that bullet entered below the

963
00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:49,390
shoulder blade to the right of the

964
00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:52,150
backbone which is below the place where

965
00:42:56,940 --> 00:42:54,280
the picture shows the bullet came out

966
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:56,950
then the neck man of the shirt in front

967
00:43:00,810 --> 00:42:59,050
and that bullet according to autopsy

968
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,820
didn't striking bone at all that

969
00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:03,040
particular bullet and go through so so

970
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:05,860
then how it could turn and about this

971
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:07,510
time he realizes what he's saying

972
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:09,130
how could he turn him midair and go back

973
00:43:14,250 --> 00:43:11,220
down and hit Connally so he shuts up

974
00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:14,260
they knew they knew as far back as

975
00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:17,800
January of 1964 that this single Bullet

976
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:19,300
theory didn't work but they're still

977
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,180
trying to sell it to you

978
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:23,920
destruction of evidence there's a

979
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:25,540
picture of the Star Telegram ran the

980
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:27,400
next day and it's a little blob here

981
00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:29,530
because I took a picture out of the

982
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:33,220
newspaper and then it's been made into a

983
00:43:37,290 --> 00:43:35,350
slide and it's in this PowerPoint but

984
00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:37,300
believe me I've seen the actual print

985
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:38,740
and you can actually see the little

986
00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:41,170
cylindrical slug that's lying in the

987
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:44,220
grass there right next to a manhole

988
00:43:49,110 --> 00:43:47,620
cover and it says the bullet fired by

989
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:49,120
the murder of President Kenyan lies the

990
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:52,450
grass across Elm Street okay well wait a

991
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:54,370
minute what happened to that chief

992
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:56,230
Currie published these these pictures

993
00:43:59,970 --> 00:43:58,030
here we see a Daoist policeman kneeling

994
00:44:01,680 --> 00:43:59,980
down and looking at the place near the

995
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,690
manhole cover where the bullet landed in

996
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:04,000
the grass here we see a sandy haired guy

997
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:07,720
reached down pick the bullet up with the

998
00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:10,360
douse policeman Foster and with a deputy

999
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:11,980
sheriff standing there looking at him

1000
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:13,780
and here we see him put in his

1001
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:16,330
and he walks away that was the end of

1002
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:19,150
that that didn't happen if it wasn't for

1003
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:21,310
these photographs that were published by

1004
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:23,920
Chief Curie we would never know that

1005
00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:25,870
this even happened so there's another

1006
00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:27,430
bullet now we're talking six eight

1007
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:31,720
bullets destruction of evidence here's a

1008
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:33,550
picture they said that was taken of the

1009
00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:36,310
back of general Walker's house by Lee

1010
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:40,420
Oswald as he cased the joint and before

1011
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:42,820
taking a shot at general Walker in the

1012
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:44,890
spring of 1963

1013
00:44:49,740 --> 00:44:48,130
I interviewed Walker back in 1964 and at

1014
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:49,750
the time there was a lot of speculation

1015
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,970
that he and some of the right-wingers in

1016
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:53,920
Dallas might have been behind the

1017
00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:55,690
assassination but after I interviewed

1018
00:45:00,360 --> 00:44:57,550
him I found out some very interesting

1019
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:00,370
things first off he told me that Jack

1020
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:02,860
Ruby and Oswald knew each other and that

1021
00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:04,900
the Warren Commission was wrong and that

1022
00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:06,520
they have started all over just on the

1023
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:08,200
fact that Ruby and Oswald knew each

1024
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:10,570
other prior to the assassination he also

1025
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:12,610
told me that at the time that somebody

1026
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:14,200
took a shot at him went through his

1027
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:17,170
window in the wall that the police told

1028
00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:20,680
him that it was a 30.6 well as wall was

1029
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:23,980
never known to own a 30.6 but here we

1030
00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:27,010
have this picture and you can see that

1031
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:29,080
in the Dallas police evidence sheet of

1032
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:31,510
the evidence they took out of Oswald's

1033
00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:33,190
apartment there's the picture and you

1034
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:36,280
can see there's no big black hole where

1035
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:38,890
the license plate is and yet when the

1036
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:40,570
Warren Commission published it it is the

1037
00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:42,970
exhibit five somebody's poked a hole in

1038
00:45:46,830 --> 00:45:44,860
the license plate so you can't check to

1039
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:46,840
find out who that car belonged to and

1040
00:45:51,090 --> 00:45:48,910
who might have been mixed up in it now

1041
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:51,100
this happened while it was in official

1042
00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:53,770
custody it's official destruction of

1043
00:46:01,920 --> 00:45:57,540
evidence and all I might also mention

1044
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:01,930
Oswald had a Minox camera okay commonly

1045
00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:06,730
known as a spy camera and what was

1046
00:46:10,890 --> 00:46:08,620
really interesting is we've checked and

1047
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:10,900
found out that it had a five digit

1048
00:46:15,390 --> 00:46:13,270
serial number and when we checked with

1049
00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:15,400
Minox corporation we found that all the

1050
00:46:20,970 --> 00:46:18,520
small military err spy cameras sold at

1051
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:20,980
that time in the United States carried a

1052
00:46:25,350 --> 00:46:23,380
six digit serial number that means

1053
00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:25,360
Oswald had a spy cam

1054
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:28,060
it was not commercially available which

1055
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:30,370
means some intelligence service probably

1056
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:34,030
issued it to him we also can show you

1057
00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:35,770
this photograph of the Lezyne at

1058
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:37,840
Parkland Hospital you notice they put

1059
00:46:42,570 --> 00:46:40,870
the top back up on the car they've got

1060
00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:42,580
the lid open they were cleaning it all

1061
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:44,200
up here's a bucket of water they're

1062
00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:46,690
washing it all down this is nothing more

1063
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:50,920
than destruction of evidence on orders

1064
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:53,110
of Lyndon Johnson that car was torn

1065
00:46:59,370 --> 00:46:56,530
apart broke down bulletproof glass put

1066
00:47:04,670 --> 00:46:59,380
in it it had been blue is painted black

1067
00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:04,680
it was armor plated okay and never

1068
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:08,700
studied forensically by anyone in the

1069
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:11,110
investigation that's destruction of

1070
00:47:20,850 --> 00:47:18,790
evidence we know that Agent Hosty who

1071
00:47:23,850 --> 00:47:20,860
was assigned Oswald prior to the

1072
00:47:26,970 --> 00:47:23,860
assassination and whose name and phone

1073
00:47:29,610 --> 00:47:26,980
number and address and license-plate

1074
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:29,620
number were found in Lee Harvey Oswald's

1075
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:33,790
notebook said that Oswald had left a

1076
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,370
warning note at the FBI office a couple

1077
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:38,800
of weeks before the assassination and

1078
00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:41,770
yet two days after the assassination he

1079
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:43,720
was called into the office of the FBI

1080
00:47:48,450 --> 00:47:46,030
agent charged in Dallas and told to

1081
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:48,460
destroy the evidence he started tearing

1082
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:50,500
it up and he said no I want it out of

1083
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:52,450
this office so they tore it up and they

1084
00:47:58,020 --> 00:47:55,390
flushed it down a toilet wait a minute

1085
00:47:59,610 --> 00:47:58,030
that's again blatant destruction of

1086
00:48:03,510 --> 00:47:59,620
evidence while in the hands of federal

1087
00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:03,520
authorities now what kind of warning was

1088
00:48:07,830 --> 00:48:06,220
it they said that was Oswald was

1089
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:07,840
learning the FBI had to leave his wife

1090
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:11,590
alone well if it had been a warning from

1091
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:14,830
Lee Harvey Oswald threatening in any way

1092
00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:18,970
the FBI for any reason come on folks

1093
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:20,260
it would have been published on the

1094
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:24,790
front page of The Life magazine but the

1095
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:28,060
it was styled as a warning and I think

1096
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:29,770
it was a warning that there was going to

1097
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:32,320
be an assassination because also have

1098
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:33,970
information from talking to dowse

1099
00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:36,160
policemen and I'm sharing this with you

1100
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,020
all it's not my book because I couldn't

1101
00:48:41,339 --> 00:48:38,410
prove

1102
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:41,349
but I talked to several dials policemen

1103
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:44,890
back in the 60s and 70s and they said it

1104
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:47,410
was generally not general knowledge that

1105
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:48,930
about two weeks before the assassination

1106
00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:51,490
the Dow's police had received a letter

1107
00:48:57,870 --> 00:48:54,670
signed by Alex J hydel which was Oswald

1108
00:48:59,549 --> 00:48:57,880
alias and warning that the president was

1109
00:49:02,250 --> 00:48:59,559
going to be shot when he came to Dallas

1110
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:02,260
and encouraging them to change the

1111
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:05,680
motorcade plans but of course the Dallas

1112
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:07,150
police intelligence people they'd never

1113
00:49:11,579 --> 00:49:09,430
heard of Oswald and they probably get

1114
00:49:14,270 --> 00:49:11,589
lots of crank letters so they simply

1115
00:49:17,849 --> 00:49:14,280
filed it away after the assassination

1116
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:17,859
that weekend the FBI went into Dallas

1117
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:20,410
police headquarters and ransacked the

1118
00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:22,990
whole place they even told me they went

1119
00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:25,180
into the motorcycle officers saddlebags

1120
00:49:30,089 --> 00:49:27,700
they went into their lockers they went

1121
00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:30,099
in anything they thought even might have

1122
00:49:37,609 --> 00:49:31,480
something do with the assassination the

1123
00:49:42,569 --> 00:49:40,260
intimidation of witnesses here's a

1124
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:42,579
variety of witnesses who all said that

1125
00:49:46,529 --> 00:49:43,990
the government tried to make them say

1126
00:49:50,849 --> 00:49:46,539
things that weren't true or try to get

1127
00:49:52,890 --> 00:49:50,859
them changed their testimony major Phil

1128
00:49:55,170 --> 00:49:52,900
Willis is a favor of a favorite of mine

1129
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:55,180
he was a great old guy and by the way

1130
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,490
his claim to fame was he was the first

1131
00:50:01,529 --> 00:49:59,440
American soldier to take a Japanese

1132
00:50:03,539 --> 00:50:01,539
prisoner in World War two

1133
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:03,549
he'd been stationed over in Hawaii at

1134
00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:05,770
the time of Pearl Harbor and but he was

1135
00:50:11,549 --> 00:50:08,680
in the army and they had him on a Beach

1136
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:11,559
Patrol they had him with a rifle garden

1137
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:13,750
one of the beaches there and away and

1138
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:15,940
there was a little two-man Japanese sub

1139
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:18,190
sub that had gotten into some action and

1140
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:20,529
had been damaged and was sinking and the

1141
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:23,049
two-man crew tried to swim to shore and

1142
00:50:27,059 --> 00:50:24,460
one of them didn't make it but the other

1143
00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:27,069
one you know the exhausted and spit and

1144
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,869
water kind of crawled up onto the beach

1145
00:50:33,569 --> 00:50:31,359
and Willis went over and took him

1146
00:50:36,299 --> 00:50:33,579
prisoner becoming the first American to

1147
00:50:39,630 --> 00:50:36,309
take a Japanese prisoner more - great

1148
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,640
guy went on to become a major and he and

1149
00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:41,440
his whole family were there in Dealey

1150
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:43,750
Plaza taking pictures at the time of the

1151
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:45,970
assassination in fact he took a picture

1152
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:47,890
that the Warren Commission did published

1153
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:50,529
in which he showed me and he said I knew

1154
00:50:55,780 --> 00:50:51,530
Jack Ruby and

1155
00:50:58,210 --> 00:50:55,790
standing in front of the Texas School

1156
00:50:59,710 --> 00:50:58,220
Book Depository so the Warren Commission

1157
00:51:03,190 --> 00:50:59,720
and actually published that picture but

1158
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:03,200
hey by some quirk they cropped it and

1159
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:05,330
cut it right through the figure of the

1160
00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:07,970
person that was Jack Ruby so you'd never

1161
00:51:10,660 --> 00:51:08,630
know it

1162
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:10,670
extend unless you talked to Phil Willis

1163
00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:12,910
I asked Phil Willis I said well you know

1164
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:15,980
how did you how did they handle you you

1165
00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:18,110
they had the Warren Commission handle

1166
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:20,600
yeah and he said oh hell I'd tell him

1167
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:23,210
yes and they'd put down no and that

1168
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,890
pretty well sums up the Warren

1169
00:51:28,570 --> 00:51:26,720
Commission you can read from these other

1170
00:51:34,180 --> 00:51:28,580
people who claim their testimony was

1171
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:34,190
altered yeah Dean Hill if you're looking

1172
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,510
the Warren Commission report it says

1173
00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:37,520
they took her testimony at the Federal

1174
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:40,430
Building in New York and Dallas and

1175
00:51:43,930 --> 00:51:41,900
Federal Building in Dallas because she

1176
00:51:44,890 --> 00:51:43,940
refused to go to Washington she had

1177
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:44,900
friends in the Dallas Police Department

1178
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:46,610
told her if you go to Washington you

1179
00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:48,710
probably not going to come back so she

1180
00:51:53,590 --> 00:51:50,990
refused to go so they sent Arlen Specter

1181
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:53,600
down to interview her in Dallas and he

1182
00:51:57,010 --> 00:51:54,890
didn't take her to the Federal Building

1183
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,020
he took her to Parkland Hospital he put

1184
00:52:02,760 --> 00:51:58,640
her in a little small windowless room

1185
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:02,770
and browbeat her and tried to get her to

1186
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:06,440
renege on her testimony in fact at one

1187
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:09,170
point he told her he said look we can

1188
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,090
make you look as crazy as Margaret

1189
00:52:15,970 --> 00:52:13,760
Oswald and everybody knows how crazy she

1190
00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:15,980
is we could have you put in a mental

1191
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:17,840
institution if you don't cooperate with

1192
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:18,170
us

1193
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:20,270
that's your government tax dollars at

1194
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:26,480
work and here we just just these are

1195
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:28,760
just some of the witnesses who told

1196
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:31,670
things other than the official story who

1197
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:33,710
were ignored and left out of the Warren

1198
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:35,050
Commission report

1199
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:37,910
there's even questions over Oswald's

1200
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:40,250
identity and if you think that sounds

1201
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:42,350
crazy or conspiracy theory here is a

1202
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:46,880
document from 1963 years before the

1203
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:49,790
assassination from Jagger Hoover to the

1204
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:51,050
Security Division of the State

1205
00:52:57,340 --> 00:52:55,490
Department and he says that there is the

1206
00:52:59,860 --> 00:52:57,350
possibility an imposter is using

1207
00:53:01,870 --> 00:52:59,870
Oswald's a birth certificate and any

1208
00:53:04,030 --> 00:53:01,880
information the Department of State has

1209
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:04,040
me appreciate it

1210
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:06,530
Wow think about that Jagger Hoover

1211
00:53:10,180 --> 00:53:08,090
personally was aware of Lee Harvey

1212
00:53:12,220 --> 00:53:10,190
Oswald three years before the

1213
00:53:16,180 --> 00:53:12,230
assassination and thought that he'd

1214
00:53:18,310 --> 00:53:16,190
someone was impersonating him say we

1215
00:53:20,830 --> 00:53:18,320
have no idea what's really going on

1216
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:20,840
and now we get this picture commissioned

1217
00:53:26,830 --> 00:53:23,960
exhibit 29 63 supposedly taken a month

1218
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:26,840
well about the time he tried to defect

1219
00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:29,090
to Russia and it's really an interesting

1220
00:53:34,450 --> 00:53:32,390
picture because if you look at it

1221
00:53:37,450 --> 00:53:34,460
closely you find that although the light

1222
00:53:39,610 --> 00:53:37,460
source is coming from his right see with

1223
00:53:42,430 --> 00:53:39,620
light here and heavy dark on his left

1224
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:42,440
side behind him as shadows goes to the

1225
00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:44,810
right so what's that about and then you

1226
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,760
notice there's a break in his hairline

1227
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:49,040
and some weird stuff on it you know it

1228
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:51,260
looks like his eye brown his mouths been

1229
00:53:55,690 --> 00:53:53,930
painted in and so if you draw a line

1230
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:55,700
down and separate them you got two

1231
00:54:02,020 --> 00:53:58,670
separate people you got Lee and you got

1232
00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:02,030
a ally here and you got Harvey here and

1233
00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:04,520
this is what they do with people who are

1234
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:08,270
spies okay agents and they want somebody

1235
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:10,610
impersonate somebody then they affect

1236
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:12,530
get a photograph of both of them split

1237
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:14,510
them but composite put them together and

1238
00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:17,390
it kind of looks right and that way when

1239
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:19,670
they go through a checkpoint or you know

1240
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:22,910
show your ID then they kind of look like

1241
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:26,210
the photograph and here we get others

1242
00:54:32,650 --> 00:54:28,810
same things happening over here we got

1243
00:54:34,330 --> 00:54:32,660
here's Lee here's Harvey here's Lee

1244
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:34,340
here's Harvey this one's great because

1245
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:37,250
see the mouth lines up the eyes line up

1246
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:39,770
you know but but this one's about knees

1247
00:54:44,890 --> 00:54:41,810
shorter and that's the whole deal

1248
00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:44,900
Oswald's marine records shows that he

1249
00:54:51,790 --> 00:54:48,920
was 5 foot 11 and yet his autopsy showed

1250
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:51,800
he was 5 foot 9 I always thought the

1251
00:54:57,490 --> 00:54:53,600
Marine Corps built man I didn't know

1252
00:54:59,020 --> 00:54:57,500
they tore him down to eat just so we

1253
00:55:00,730 --> 00:54:59,030
don't even know who I was well really

1254
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:00,740
was in fact going back to Paul grieve

1255
00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:02,810
the funeral home director he told me

1256
00:55:06,340 --> 00:55:04,820
that about a week after they buried on

1257
00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:06,350
us while the Secret Service showed up

1258
00:55:11,710 --> 00:55:09,590
and was asking him about marks and scars

1259
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:11,720
on the body and one of them finally

1260
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:13,370
quipped and said you know we don't know

1261
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:22,010
Oswald's own mother in 1967 asked for an

1262
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:24,300
exclamation saying that she wanted to

1263
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:26,760
that there was some question about the

1264
00:55:31,970 --> 00:55:29,730
identity of Oswald in fact if you'll

1265
00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:31,980
read the Warren Commission volumes very

1266
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:33,870
carefully you'll find that his mother

1267
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:36,330
his brother and his half-brother all

1268
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:38,730
three told Warren Commission then when

1269
00:55:43,550 --> 00:55:40,590
he came back from Russia he was really

1270
00:55:45,830 --> 00:55:43,560
changed that his thick hair was now thin

1271
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:45,840
his big bull neck was now a little

1272
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,210
scrawny neck and his cheeks were Hollow

1273
00:55:52,820 --> 00:55:50,880
you know they all said he didn't quite

1274
00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:52,830
look the same but of course keep in mind

1275
00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:56,190
in 1963 nobody would have thought the

1276
00:56:03,140 --> 00:55:58,230
government capable of substituting

1277
00:56:10,810 --> 00:56:06,500
so these are all criminal acts all

1278
00:56:17,590 --> 00:56:12,520
and they're all done by accessories

1279
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,600
after the fact so who's guilty chamber

1280
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,520
Hoover and his next-door neighbor and

1281
00:56:24,790 --> 00:56:22,400
buddy Lyndon Baines Johnson and who

1282
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:24,800
profited most from the assassination

1283
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:27,770
Lyndon Johnson and Jagger Hoover who

1284
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:30,170
completely control the investigation

1285
00:56:34,620 --> 00:56:32,230
Lyndon Johnson and J Edgar Hoover

1286
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:34,630
Johnson appointed the Warren Commission

1287
00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:38,000
funded it out of presidential funds and

1288
00:56:53,530 --> 00:56:41,270
in doing so closed down any truthful

1289
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:53,540
investigation here in the FBI whatever

1290
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:55,790
he said went and he was in total charge

1291
00:56:59,170 --> 00:56:57,530
of investigation and the Warren

1292
00:57:01,570 --> 00:56:59,180
Commission and whether they were good or

1293
00:57:03,730 --> 00:57:01,580
cover-up artists nevertheless they were

1294
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:03,740
at the mercy of the information given to

1295
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:07,130
them by the FBI and are you ready for

1296
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:09,350
this both of these two guys were about

1297
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:12,250
to lose their jobs because the Kennedys

1298
00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:15,290
Life magazine some officials have now

1299
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:17,750
verified that the very week of the

1300
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:20,450
assassination or the week after they

1301
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:23,930
were already set to run a big expose

1302
00:57:29,140 --> 00:57:26,570
article on the criminal activities of

1303
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:29,150
Lyndon Johnson they had been fed this by

1304
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:31,160
Bobby Kennedy as Attorney General and

1305
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:33,050
they were going to blow Johnson out of

1306
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:35,930
the water all right hit the tf-x scandal

1307
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:38,450
in Fort Worth the Bobby Baker scandal

1308
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:42,350
the Billy celesta scandal he not only

1309
00:57:47,140 --> 00:57:44,330
was probably going to lose his job he

1310
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:47,150
was probably going to go to prison jr.

1311
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:49,250
Hoover was about to lose his job because

1312
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:50,990
they did the Kennedys that let it be

1313
00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:52,850
known in Washington that they were going

1314
00:57:57,010 --> 00:57:55,220
to force Hoover's retirement because he

1315
00:58:00,220 --> 00:57:57,020
was approaching the mandatory federal

1316
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:00,230
age for retirement and they were going

1317
00:58:04,030 --> 00:58:01,850
to invoke that and get him out of there

1318
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:04,040
of course he had to help power since

1319
00:58:07,450 --> 00:58:06,710
1924 because he had the dirt on

1320
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:07,460
everybody

1321
00:58:15,010 --> 00:58:11,930
and yet in Jane were early January 1964

1322
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:15,020
just a month or so after this the

1323
00:58:21,250 --> 00:58:19,520
assassination Johnson held a press

1324
00:58:23,590 --> 00:58:21,260
conference in the Rose Garden praised

1325
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:23,600
Hoover for his anti-communist activities

1326
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:24,400
and

1327
00:58:37,529 --> 00:58:34,450
him as FBI director for life

1328
00:58:40,049 --> 00:58:37,539
Life magazine scrubbed the article

1329
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:40,059
because the the magazine issue that came

1330
00:58:45,329 --> 00:58:42,730
out the week after needless to say was

1331
00:58:47,819 --> 00:58:45,339
not revealing the criminalities of

1332
00:58:50,009 --> 00:58:47,829
Johnson but about the assassination of

1333
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:50,019
President Kennedy and both these men

1334
00:58:56,430 --> 00:58:53,650
took steps that made them accessories

1335
00:58:59,279 --> 00:58:56,440
after the fact now can I prove that

1336
00:59:01,680 --> 00:58:59,289
those men orchestrated or ordered the

1337
00:59:04,109 --> 00:59:01,690
assassination no and I doubt we'll ever

1338
00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:04,119
be able to prove that but what I can

1339
00:59:09,749 --> 00:59:08,140
prove and can be demonstrated to beyond

1340
00:59:11,999 --> 00:59:09,759
a reasonable shot of the doubt is that

1341
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:12,009
both Hoover and Johnson took actions

1342
00:59:17,279 --> 00:59:15,670
that blocked a meaningful truthful

1343
00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:17,289
investigation into the Kennedy

1344
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:20,200
assassination again under our legal

1345
00:59:25,049 --> 00:59:22,450
system that makes them accessories after

1346
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:25,059
the fact and they are guilty in the

1347
00:59:31,859 --> 00:59:28,809
assassination and I'm not the only one

1348
00:59:33,029 --> 00:59:31,869
believing that this letter for 1994 was

1349
00:59:36,769 --> 00:59:33,039
from Evelyn Lincoln

1350
00:59:39,930 --> 00:59:36,779
anybody know who Evelyn Lincoln was

1351
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:39,940
Kennedy's personal secretary she is with

1352
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:42,609
him at his elbow almost day and night

1353
00:59:47,069 --> 00:59:45,190
and if anybody knew what was going on in

1354
00:59:49,229 --> 00:59:47,079
the Keeney White House I'm sure is level

1355
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:49,239
in lincoln and in this letter she said

1356
00:59:57,019 --> 00:59:54,400
it is as for the assassination he's

1357
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:57,029
concerned is my belief that there were

1358
01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:00,160
those that there was a conspiracy

1359
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:03,160
because there were those who disliked

1360
01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:04,930
him and felt the only way to get rid of

1361
01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:07,230
him was to assassinate him these five

1362
01:00:12,089 --> 01:00:09,640
conspirators in my opinion were Lyndon

1363
01:00:14,370 --> 01:00:12,099
Johnson Jagger Hoover the Mafia the CIA

1364
01:00:17,339 --> 01:00:14,380
the Cubans in Florida thank you very

1365
01:00:19,470 --> 01:00:17,349
much now with all of the retrospective

1366
01:00:21,269 --> 01:00:19,480
shows on TV and all the who and and not

1367
01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:21,279
only about the Kennedys know they'll

1368
01:00:24,779 --> 01:00:23,319
probably about the SAS nation how many

1369
01:00:29,249 --> 01:00:24,789
times have you seen an interview with

1370
01:00:31,890 --> 01:00:29,259
Evelyn Lincoln not there is she because

1371
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:31,900
she knew she knew what was going on and

1372
01:00:37,390 --> 01:00:34,690
so when the president United States is

1373
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:37,400
the guy behind the assassination and

1374
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:40,610
the FBI is is aid and they have total

1375
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:43,010
support from the corporate control mass

1376
01:00:47,230 --> 01:00:45,170
media now do you understand why the

1377
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:47,240
Kennedy assassination is considered

1378
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:50,930
controversial and it all boils down to

1379
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:53,660
what Warren Commission John J McCloy if

1380
01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:55,010
you've read my book the rise of the

1381
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:56,870
Fourth Reich you'll know that John J

1382
01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:57,290
McCloy

1383
01:01:02,170 --> 01:00:59,450
was a mover and a shaker a member of the

1384
01:01:04,180 --> 01:01:02,180
Council on Foreign Relations the largest

1385
01:01:06,370 --> 01:01:04,190
lender of money to the Nazi government

1386
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,380
and then served as High Commissioner to

1387
01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:08,000
Germany brought all the paperclip

1388
01:01:11,830 --> 01:01:10,190
scientists over here and then served on

1389
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:11,840
the Warren Commission to determine what

1390
01:01:17,170 --> 01:01:14,570
happened to John F Kennedy and in one of

1391
01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:17,180
their meetings he said it is a it was a

1392
01:01:20,890 --> 01:01:19,160
paramount importance to show the world

1393
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:20,900
that America is not a Banana Republic

1394
01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:22,910
where a government can be changed by

1395
01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:25,220
conspiracy well folks I'm here tonight

1396
01:01:31,930 --> 01:01:28,670
to tell you and I'm sorry to tell you we

1397
01:01:33,730 --> 01:01:31,940
are just another Banana Republic and in

1398
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:33,740
fact from the time of the Kennedy

1399
01:01:37,780 --> 01:01:36,050
assassination through the assassinations

1400
01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:37,790
of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy

1401
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,400
the shooting of George Wallace the

1402
01:01:46,510 --> 01:01:43,280
shooting of you know it just goes on and

1403
01:01:49,570 --> 01:01:46,520
on the shooting of Reagan come on from

1404
01:01:51,850 --> 01:01:49,580
from 1963 all the way up to about 1980

1405
01:01:53,650 --> 01:01:51,860
for all those elections all those

1406
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:53,660
presidential elections were cited by

1407
01:02:01,330 --> 01:01:56,450
gunfire were just another Banana

1408
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:01,340
Republic but whatever you do don't

1409
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:06,710
mention the coup of 1963 but if you want

1410
01:02:11,740 --> 01:02:09,770
to call the details the sources get my

1411
01:02:14,140 --> 01:02:11,750
new book crossfire the plot to kill

1412
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:14,150
Kennedy and you'll find out all you need

1413
01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:16,310
to know now how we doing on time we've

1414
01:02:22,510 --> 01:02:18,740
got plenty of time I hope oh yeah okay

1415
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:22,520
now comes the juice what's that got to

1416
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:28,240
all right well first off if you

1417
01:02:32,380 --> 01:02:30,080
understand clearly what happened to

1418
01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:32,390
Kennedy and the government can lie can

1419
01:02:37,540 --> 01:02:34,550
cover-up then you can begin to

1420
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:37,550
understand about UFOs so why would they

1421
01:02:41,140 --> 01:02:39,290
want to get rid of Kennedy well you know

1422
01:02:43,210 --> 01:02:41,150
we know some of the more obvious reasons

1423
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:43,220
then he was going to pull us out of

1424
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:43,730
Vietnam

1425
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:46,780
he had already thwarted the military

1426
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:50,450
military in the the Pentagon by refusing

1427
01:02:57,490 --> 01:02:53,930
to use nuclear weapons in layoffs all

1428
01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:57,500
right and that he had already in early

1429
01:03:01,960 --> 01:02:59,570
October signed a national security

1430
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:01,970
action memorandum that said he agreed

1431
01:03:07,090 --> 01:03:04,190
that we could pull all our troops out of

1432
01:03:10,270 --> 01:03:07,100
Vietnam by the end of 1965 and in this

1433
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:10,280
presidential order he says make no

1434
01:03:16,540 --> 01:03:12,110
public announcement but begin the

1435
01:03:17,830 --> 01:03:16,550
withdrawal of 1,000 advisors ok the

1436
01:03:19,770 --> 01:03:17,840
Monday following the Friday

1437
01:03:23,260 --> 01:03:19,780
assassination Lyndon Johnson issued

1438
01:03:26,350 --> 01:03:23,270
nationalist security action to 73 in

1439
01:03:29,260 --> 01:03:26,360
which he said military and financial aid

1440
01:03:30,970 --> 01:03:29,270
to South Vietnam will not be lowered

1441
01:03:33,250 --> 01:03:30,980
past the level of the diem government

1442
01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:33,260
well that was knocked over the first so

1443
01:03:38,740 --> 01:03:35,180
that essentially blocked Kennedy's

1444
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:38,750
pullout order ok and it set us on the

1445
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:40,910
road to Vietnam in fact the real Vietnam

1446
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:45,200
War started in August of 1964 with the

1447
01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:48,050
phony Gulf of Tonkin battle there was

1448
01:03:52,990 --> 01:03:50,840
never any vital and yet Johnson went to

1449
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:53,000
the Congress and said our boys are

1450
01:03:57,580 --> 01:03:55,010
floating in the water give me the power

1451
01:04:00,970 --> 01:03:57,590
and I'll stop all this communists you

1452
01:04:02,620 --> 01:04:00,980
know aggression and so they passed the

1453
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:02,630
Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which

1454
01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:04,700
abrogated the Constitution in the United

1455
01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:07,160
States which says colony Congress has

1456
01:04:11,470 --> 01:04:09,140
power to declare war and they gave that

1457
01:04:14,740 --> 01:04:11,480
war-making power to Johnson and by

1458
01:04:16,540 --> 01:04:14,750
September of 1964 ground troops include

1459
01:04:19,810 --> 01:04:16,550
the Marines were being sent to Vietnam

1460
01:04:22,510 --> 01:04:19,820
and then the bombing campaign of the

1461
01:04:25,780 --> 01:04:22,520
north started and we went into the major

1462
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,790
Vietnam War which cost 58,000 American

1463
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:27,440
lives wrecked our economy and caused

1464
01:04:35,860 --> 01:04:32,450
still asur differences and and schisms

1465
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:35,870
between families and generations ok so

1466
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:38,720
we know that we know that he was trying

1467
01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:39,200
to make

1468
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:42,260
we approach Minh twith Castro which only

1469
01:04:45,490 --> 01:04:43,970
recently within the past month or so

1470
01:04:47,410 --> 01:04:45,500
they're finally getting around to saying

1471
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:47,420
made talking about maybe we could do

1472
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:50,210
that he wouldn't do it he also had been

1473
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:51,920
meeting with Khrushchev and talking with

1474
01:04:55,809 --> 01:04:53,930
Khrushchev on the hotline and they had

1475
01:04:58,059 --> 01:04:55,819
about decided to try to put an end to

1476
01:05:00,359 --> 01:04:58,069
the Cold War but then Kennedy got

1477
01:05:02,620 --> 01:05:00,369
assassinated the Cold War continued and

1478
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,630
Khrushchev within six months had been

1479
01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:04,880
ousted and they didn't kill him but they

1480
01:05:10,839 --> 01:05:07,790
put him out to pasture and the we went

1481
01:05:12,849 --> 01:05:10,849
continued with the Cold War we also know

1482
01:05:14,770 --> 01:05:12,859
that his brother Bobby Kennedy as

1483
01:05:16,990 --> 01:05:14,780
Attorney General was prosecuting

1484
01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:17,000
organized crime as never before or since

1485
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,099
in fact the very morning of the

1486
01:05:22,990 --> 01:05:20,960
assassination he had had a big meeting

1487
01:05:25,329 --> 01:05:23,000
with his organized crime task force

1488
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:25,339
they broke for lunch and then he got a

1489
01:05:29,650 --> 01:05:29,119
call from Jagger Hoover who said never

1490
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:29,660
met me

1491
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:34,180
Harvey Oswald II he's ex-marine he he

1492
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:36,770
defected to Russia he's a pro communist

1493
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:38,690
he's a mean-spirited individual in the

1494
01:05:44,620 --> 01:05:41,119
category of a nut all that came out

1495
01:05:46,329 --> 01:05:44,630
about 20 years ago from FBI files and

1496
01:05:48,099 --> 01:05:46,339
this was like two hours after the

1497
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:48,109
shooting now there's a good piece of

1498
01:05:51,940 --> 01:05:50,089
circumstantial evidence for you right

1499
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:51,950
there two hours after the shooting

1500
01:05:56,530 --> 01:05:54,770
Oswald had just been arrested the Texas

1501
01:05:58,599 --> 01:05:56,540
theater hauled out brought down to the

1502
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,609
Dallas Police Headquarters he had two

1503
01:06:02,530 --> 01:06:00,559
sets of identification on him one says

1504
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:02,540
he's Lee Harvey Oswald the other sees

1505
01:06:07,390 --> 01:06:05,569
these Alex James Hodel well the police

1506
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:07,400
are saying well which one are you and he

1507
01:06:11,799 --> 01:06:09,410
said he was being uncooperative he said

1508
01:06:13,450 --> 01:06:11,809
you're the cops figure it out and yet at

1509
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:13,460
the time the local authorities weren't

1510
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:15,770
even sure who they had in custody Hoover

1511
01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:17,720
is on the phone to Bobby Kennedy giving

1512
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:19,790
a complete rundown on Oswald who he knew

1513
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:21,650
all about three years earlier doesn't

1514
01:06:27,539 --> 01:06:24,290
that tell you what was going on okay but

1515
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:27,549
now so we know all that was going on but

1516
01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:30,559
only the tabloids has brought broached

1517
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:32,420
the idea that Kennedy may have been

1518
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:34,569
killed because what he knew about UFOs

1519
01:06:40,030 --> 01:06:37,760
and of course when I first read this and

1520
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,040
I don't see the date on that but there's

1521
01:06:43,539 --> 01:06:41,839
a long time ago and I just kind of

1522
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:43,549
laughed you know because those tabloids

1523
01:06:50,260 --> 01:06:47,330
they'll just say anything but then

1524
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:50,270
I got them I found out that there is

1525
01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:54,610
something called the interplanetary unit

1526
01:06:59,560 --> 01:06:56,990
phenomena the interplanetary phenomena

1527
01:07:02,350 --> 01:06:59,570
unit and that sounds pretty far-out but

1528
01:07:04,570 --> 01:07:02,360
that's a legitimate government agency or

1529
01:07:07,030 --> 01:07:04,580
unit that was active at the time of

1530
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:07,040
Roswell and they actually produced a

1531
01:07:11,530 --> 01:07:09,530
document which is now available and it

1532
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:11,540
tells the truth about Roswell it says

1533
01:07:15,820 --> 01:07:13,730
that there was one crash site and that

1534
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:15,830
that there was a lot of debris there but

1535
01:07:20,290 --> 01:07:18,050
that the main capsule continued on and

1536
01:07:22,570 --> 01:07:20,300
landed at Socorro so there was actually

1537
01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:22,580
two landing zones they talked about the

1538
01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:24,950
radar contacts they give a lot of

1539
01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:27,230
detailed information about Roswell that

1540
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:30,350
that is so far to the most serious

1541
01:07:34,780 --> 01:07:32,690
researchers turned out to be true and at

1542
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:34,790
the very end of their report it said

1543
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,470
some of the recovery operation was

1544
01:07:41,530 --> 01:07:38,480
shared with representative John F

1545
01:07:45,610 --> 01:07:41,540
Kennedy Massachusetts Democrat elected

1546
01:07:48,580 --> 01:07:45,620
to Congress in 46 son of Joseph P

1547
01:07:50,850 --> 01:07:48,590
Kennedy who was a mission a member of

1548
01:07:52,650 --> 01:07:50,860
the Commission on organization of the

1549
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:52,660
executive branch of the government

1550
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:55,310
Kennedy had limited duty as the naval

1551
01:07:59,170 --> 01:07:56,810
officer assigned to Naval Intelligence

1552
01:08:02,680 --> 01:07:59,180
during the war it is believed that

1553
01:08:04,090 --> 01:08:02,690
information was obtained from a source

1554
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:04,100
in Congress who is close to the

1555
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:06,110
secretary for the Air Force so in other

1556
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:07,760
words in this document by the way was

1557
01:08:11,260 --> 01:08:10,730
written back in 1947 how many of you all

1558
01:08:13,860 --> 01:08:11,270
knew that

1559
01:08:17,230 --> 01:08:13,870
John F Kennedy was in naval intelligence

1560
01:08:21,940 --> 01:08:17,240
very few because that is not very well

1561
01:08:23,710 --> 01:08:21,950
known but he was oh my god I got time to

1562
01:08:26,829 --> 01:08:23,720
tell you about I'll just take the time

1563
01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:26,839
it's a great story who put Kennedy in

1564
01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:28,790
the office in the first place Jagger

1565
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:33,380
Hoover how did he do that ok World War 2

1566
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,530
and John F Kennedy young naval ensign is

1567
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:38,480
stationed in Washington with Naval

1568
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:43,040
Intelligence but he liked the women big

1569
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:48,410
surprise there right so he's hanging

1570
01:08:54,610 --> 01:08:50,510
around with Inga Arvin

1571
01:08:57,579 --> 01:08:54,620
he called her Inga Inga Inga our van was

1572
01:09:00,490 --> 01:08:57,589
a former Miss Sweden quite a looker and

1573
01:09:02,590 --> 01:09:00,500
who had hobnobbed with some of the

1574
01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:02,600
eating lights of Europe including a doff

1575
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:06,710
Hitler so the FBI suspected her of being

1576
01:09:11,140 --> 01:09:08,210
a Nazi spy

1577
01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:11,150
so they bugged her apartment and who do

1578
01:09:17,769 --> 01:09:13,400
they get in their tapes but John F

1579
01:09:19,570 --> 01:09:17,779
Kennedy so they go to Joe his father and

1580
01:09:23,019 --> 01:09:19,580
they say listen you got a problem here

1581
01:09:25,539 --> 01:09:23,029
you know because we think your son may

1582
01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:25,549
be hobnobbing with this Nazi spy

1583
01:09:29,289 --> 01:09:28,190
so Jagger Hoover calls in Joe Kennedy

1584
01:09:31,870 --> 01:09:29,299
and said we got to do something about

1585
01:09:33,700 --> 01:09:31,880
this so he went to Jack Kennedy and they

1586
01:09:36,130 --> 01:09:33,710
told him you know you got to start

1587
01:09:39,550 --> 01:09:36,140
seeing her and you're gonna have to

1588
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:39,560
start to battle three guys

1589
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,049
well Jack Kennedy was young and fervor

1590
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:44,000
and he was just like all young guys that

1591
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:45,920
in World War two you know he's a well

1592
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:46,609
above I got it

1593
01:09:51,309 --> 01:09:49,040
if I can't play playboy I don't want to

1594
01:09:53,289 --> 01:09:51,319
be fighting the enemy so he demanded

1595
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:53,299
that they send him to a combat unit so

1596
01:09:55,420 --> 01:09:54,710
sure enough they sent him to the South

1597
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:55,430
Pacific

1598
01:10:04,060 --> 01:09:58,400
put him in trumping in command of a PT

1599
01:10:06,340 --> 01:10:04,070
boat PT 109 and of course he lost his

1600
01:10:09,130 --> 01:10:06,350
command and got run over by a Japanese

1601
01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:09,140
Cruiser one night and split all apart

1602
01:10:13,420 --> 01:10:11,270
which on the one hand probably should

1603
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:13,430
have earned him a court-martial but then

1604
01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:15,560
on the other hand though he with a bad

1605
01:10:22,420 --> 01:10:19,490
back he took his wounded engine engineer

1606
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:22,430
put the Mae West strapped in his mouth

1607
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:25,550
and swam all the way to this island with

1608
01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:28,130
this guy help saved him helped save the

1609
01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:29,990
rest of the crew they were on this

1610
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:32,630
island out of food out of water no ammo

1611
01:10:37,210 --> 01:10:35,210
and they found out that this island was

1612
01:10:38,770 --> 01:10:37,220
held by the Japanese well now they're

1613
01:10:40,690 --> 01:10:38,780
really down there going let's give up

1614
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:40,700
let's just give up but you know I'll

1615
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:43,610
just sit out the war and a powa and John

1616
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:45,290
Hagee said nope I'm gonna get you out of

1617
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:47,330
here and sure enough he kept messing

1618
01:10:51,970 --> 01:10:49,730
around until he found some natives that

1619
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:51,980
were somewhat friendly to him and he

1620
01:10:56,530 --> 01:10:53,660
managed to get word back to another

1621
01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:56,540
island that was in the control of the

1622
01:11:01,660 --> 01:10:59,210
Allies they sent a submarine and they

1623
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:01,670
got John F Kennedy and his crew off the

1624
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:04,610
island and rescued him so now the Navy

1625
01:11:09,460 --> 01:11:07,550
says okay do we court-martial this guy

1626
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:09,470
you know who's the son of a prominent

1627
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:11,090
senator and

1628
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:13,730
a powerful politician or do we make him

1629
01:11:18,910 --> 01:11:16,369
a hero well they made him a hero and it

1630
01:11:21,220 --> 01:11:18,920
was that fame in the PT 109 that

1631
01:11:23,229 --> 01:11:21,230
launched him into politics put him in

1632
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,239
the House of Representatives been put

1633
01:11:25,870 --> 01:11:25,280
him in as a senator and then on to the

1634
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,880
president

1635
01:11:30,729 --> 01:11:27,920
all thanks to Chad groover and his

1636
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:30,739
snooping didn't have a story but then

1637
01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:32,530
there was other things going on

1638
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:36,260
Kennedy and by 47 knew the truth of

1639
01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:40,400
Roswell that there really was aliens and

1640
01:11:50,020 --> 01:11:45,380
there wasn't really was a crash June the

1641
01:11:52,629 --> 01:11:50,030
26 1961 he sends this memo to the

1642
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:52,639
national security memorandum to the

1643
01:11:58,959 --> 01:11:54,290
Director of Central Intelligence a

1644
01:12:00,760 --> 01:11:58,969
review of mj-12 intelligence operations

1645
01:12:03,330 --> 01:12:00,770
well you know mj-12 that's not supposed

1646
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:03,340
to exist but he was already on to it and

1647
01:12:12,430 --> 01:12:08,210
then we also know that Dorothy Kilgallen

1648
01:12:14,620 --> 01:12:12,440
said that there was a secret visit by

1649
01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:14,630
the president of the secret airbase so

1650
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:16,940
all of this was going long and Kitty

1651
01:12:24,459 --> 01:12:21,199
knew about it now in the fall of 1962

1652
01:12:27,490 --> 01:12:24,469
Glenn pace and Rufus Bond were two

1653
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:27,500
photographers stationed at area 51 in

1654
01:12:32,859 --> 01:12:30,560
Nevada now they did not have access to

1655
01:12:34,540 --> 01:12:32,869
the lower levels so they couldn't say

1656
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:34,550
with any certainty if there were aliens

1657
01:12:40,689 --> 01:12:37,520
there or flying saucers but they did

1658
01:12:43,330 --> 01:12:40,699
have access to the joint cafeteria where

1659
01:12:45,370 --> 01:12:43,340
the project paperclip scientists ate and

1660
01:12:46,959 --> 01:12:45,380
other scientists they were working in

1661
01:12:50,109 --> 01:12:46,969
these lower levels and they heard all

1662
01:12:53,859 --> 01:12:50,119
kinds of rumors okay but the story they

1663
01:12:56,050 --> 01:12:53,869
tell is that in the fall of 1962 there

1664
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:56,060
was a buzz going on in the cafeteria

1665
01:12:59,950 --> 01:12:58,010
among the scientists that the president

1666
01:13:04,270 --> 01:12:59,960
John F Kennedy was going to come and

1667
01:13:05,770 --> 01:13:04,280
visit area 51 and they were all kind of

1668
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:05,780
laughing and snickering about the whole

1669
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:07,670
thing because basically the attitude

1670
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:09,650
seemed to be well don't worry about it

1671
01:13:13,149 --> 01:13:11,210
we'll give him the dog and pony show

1672
01:13:16,510 --> 01:13:13,159
like we have everybody else that shows

1673
01:13:18,939 --> 01:13:16,520
up and he'll thank us and go away but

1674
01:13:21,790 --> 01:13:18,949
then a few weeks later when this visit

1675
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:21,800
took place the whole attitude changed

1676
01:13:25,780 --> 01:13:22,970
abruptly

1677
01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:25,790
scientists were agitated they were upset

1678
01:13:31,210 --> 01:13:28,760
they were mad and they were and it was

1679
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:31,220
plain they said because Kennedy had

1680
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:33,950
threatened to cut their budgets now what

1681
01:13:39,940 --> 01:13:37,040
happened there I strongly suspect that

1682
01:13:42,430 --> 01:13:39,950
Kennedy showed up at area 51 and they

1683
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:42,440
said okay you know here's our space

1684
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:44,630
ships and here's what we're working on

1685
01:13:48,580 --> 01:13:46,370
and that's it nothing here to see sir

1686
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:48,590
but he was one of the he didn't buy it

1687
01:13:55,420 --> 01:13:52,310
because he knew from 47 that the Roswell

1688
01:13:57,340 --> 01:13:55,430
crash was real and so he tells him look

1689
01:14:00,040 --> 01:13:57,350
quit lying to me or I'm gonna cut your

1690
01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:00,050
budgets you guys are playing footsie out

1691
01:14:08,170 --> 01:14:03,080
here so they all got upset so there is

1692
01:14:10,210 --> 01:14:08,180
another nail in the coffin all the

1693
01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:10,220
people at area 51 he's threatening to

1694
01:14:17,170 --> 01:14:12,980
blow the secrets we also now have this

1695
01:14:19,180 --> 01:14:17,180
November the 12th 63 document where he

1696
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:19,190
is demanding that the director of

1697
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:22,010
Central Intelligence Agency turn over to

1698
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:22,910
the White House

1699
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:26,450
all UFO FILES and he said he wants it on

1700
01:14:32,710 --> 01:14:29,330
his desk by no later than February the

1701
01:14:34,030 --> 01:14:32,720
1st 1964 now any of y'all have been in

1702
01:14:35,050 --> 01:14:34,040
the military have been in the government

1703
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:35,060
you'll probably understand what I'm

1704
01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:37,310
saying when I tell you that if the CIA

1705
01:14:41,770 --> 01:14:39,860
had handed over all of their UFO files

1706
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:41,780
to the Kennedy White House there would

1707
01:14:48,910 --> 01:14:44,990
have been late glower and we would have

1708
01:14:52,660 --> 01:14:48,920
known about in 1964 the reality of UFOs

1709
01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:52,670
and of the et visitation but on November

1710
01:14:59,710 --> 01:14:56,450
the 22nd Kennedy's cut down and that was

1711
01:15:02,800 --> 01:14:59,720
the end of that so was he murdered too

1712
01:15:05,710 --> 01:15:02,810
I still personally do not feel that he

1713
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:05,720
was killed specifically to keep UFO

1714
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:08,930
secrets but I do believe now that that

1715
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:11,330
was one of the straws that broke the

1716
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:12,610
camel's back

1717
01:15:19,420 --> 01:15:15,530
keep in mind let me see if there's is

1718
01:15:22,330 --> 01:15:19,430
that yet oh well to prove that this is

1719
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,340
what's going on we have this document

1720
01:15:26,830 --> 01:15:24,800
National Security action memorandum 271

1721
01:15:29,290 --> 01:15:26,840
then I got out of the king of the

1722
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:29,300
library and he's talking this is to the

1723
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,970
administrator of NASA saying that he

1724
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:33,920
wants his cooperation because we were

1725
01:15:36,170 --> 01:15:35,810
getting it ready to go into joint space

1726
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:36,180
X

1727
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:38,610
operation with the Soviets and he said

1728
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:40,530
we need to separate the knowns from the

1729
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:42,930
unknowns so that they won't think we're

1730
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:45,510
using this as a cover to spy on them and

1731
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:47,040
sure enough

1732
01:15:57,050 --> 01:15:54,390
Khrushchev's son I believe it is yeah

1733
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,060
his son Khrushchev son later wrote and

1734
01:16:01,730 --> 01:15:59,280
said yes dad agreed to go into joint

1735
01:16:06,110 --> 01:16:01,740
space exploration you know now think

1736
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:06,120
about that 19 1964 come on man and would

1737
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:08,940
have ended the Cold War and we would you

1738
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:10,080
know military-industrial complex

1739
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:14,310
couldn't have that so they shot Kennedy

1740
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:16,410
and they fired Khrushchev and we

1741
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:22,320
continued with the cohort Lyndon Johnson

1742
01:16:27,530 --> 01:16:24,930
he knows he knows what's going on listen

1743
01:16:34,130 --> 01:16:27,540
to what he told the Senate Democratic

1744
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:34,140
caucus June January 7th 1958 control of

1745
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:36,510
space means control of the world from

1746
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:40,290
space the Masters of infinity remember

1747
01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:42,360
that sure would like to know the Masters

1748
01:16:47,570 --> 01:16:45,300
of infinity are the Masters of infinity

1749
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,580
would have the power to control the

1750
01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:49,920
Earth's weather to cause drought and

1751
01:16:55,490 --> 01:16:53,100
flood to change the tides and to raise

1752
01:16:58,010 --> 01:16:55,500
the level of the sea to divert the Gulf

1753
01:17:00,680 --> 01:16:58,020
Stream and change the climate to frigid

1754
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,690
this is the ultimate position the

1755
01:17:07,490 --> 01:17:02,880
position of total control over the earth

1756
01:17:08,860 --> 01:17:07,500
that lies somewhere in outer space now

1757
01:17:14,090 --> 01:17:08,870
what's going on right now

1758
01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:14,100
climate change droughts tsunamis

1759
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:18,150
earthquakes you know is it just natural

1760
01:17:25,010 --> 01:17:21,810
phenomena or is it HAARP is it secret

1761
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:25,020
weapons being used is it stuff that

1762
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:34,310
there's secrets folks and we're not in

1763
01:17:41,210 --> 01:17:39,090
on them and you tell your friends and

1764
01:17:44,060 --> 01:17:41,220
neighbors when you say you've been to a

1765
01:17:47,300 --> 01:17:44,070
UFO conference and they start snickering

1766
01:17:50,060 --> 01:17:47,310
you tell them what I said I don't care

1767
01:17:53,060 --> 01:17:50,070
how brilliant you are how smart you are

1768
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:53,070
if you're operating with incomplete or

1769
01:17:59,630 --> 01:17:55,980
erroneous information you'll never be

1770
01:18:02,990 --> 01:17:59,640
able to make any serious correct

1771
01:18:05,420 --> 01:18:03,000
decisions about anything and if you

1772
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:05,430
laugh and blow off the subject of UFOs

1773
01:18:10,460 --> 01:18:08,640
and aliens then you'll never know what's

1774
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:10,470
really happening in the world because

1775
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:12,840
you're throwing out a big piece of the

1776
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,960
I think actually

1777
01:18:31,610 --> 01:18:29,060
they hand me down here to go to nine

1778
01:18:32,930 --> 01:18:31,620
it's only about 8:40 so if there's any

1779
01:18:35,930 --> 01:18:32,940
questions I'll be glad to answer

1780
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:35,940
anything I can you just shout them out

1781
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:37,650
so I hear what you're saying any

1782
01:19:18,430 --> 01:18:41,850
questions no questions Wow was I that

1783
01:19:23,690 --> 01:19:21,980
yeah well that yeah that goes but that

1784
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:23,700
goes back to those were those were

1785
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:27,210
well-documented one one just in 63 it

1786
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:29,310
was a goes back some comes forward some

1787
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:31,440
I've talked to some of those military

1788
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:33,690
officers and there again that's a good

1789
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:35,250
illustration of how you want to look at

1790
01:19:41,450 --> 01:19:38,570
the UFO issue it is absolutely true that

1791
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:41,460
over a long time period that UFOs were

1792
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:44,400
seen over our missile installations and

1793
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:46,110
the they're launching codes were changed

1794
01:19:50,420 --> 01:19:49,050
and they were there were flummoxed okay

1795
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:50,430
where they couldn't have launched them

1796
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:51,780
now

1797
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:54,450
Colonel Corso he told me well that

1798
01:19:57,980 --> 01:19:55,650
proves they're enemies

1799
01:20:00,350 --> 01:19:57,990
and I said why he said because they came

1800
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,360
over our bases and they we'd order him

1801
01:20:05,090 --> 01:20:02,880
to stop and they wouldn't stop and I

1802
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:05,100
said well that just means they're not

1803
01:20:08,420 --> 01:20:06,690
obeying you doesn't mean they're enemies

1804
01:20:10,910 --> 01:20:08,430
he said yeah but they're changed the

1805
01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:10,920
codes on our missile launches and I said

1806
01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:12,600
yeah but the missiles didn't launch I

1807
01:20:15,860 --> 01:20:14,460
said have you ever considered the idea

1808
01:20:18,620 --> 01:20:15,870
that maybe they were stopping us from

1809
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:18,630
killing ourselves you know maybe they

1810
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:20,490
didn't want those missiles lunch and

1811
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:23,370
start starting a third world war you

1812
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,890
know so it's really ambiguous as to

1813
01:20:31,130 --> 01:20:28,320
what's going on but I happen to believe

1814
01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:31,140
that if the UFOs which by the way if you

1815
01:20:34,820 --> 01:20:32,760
you all have done your homework you'll

1816
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:34,830
know I'm telling you the truth the UFOs

1817
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:38,760
predate 1947 they they go all the way

1818
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,409
back in fact

1819
01:20:44,419 --> 01:20:43,199
my newest book our occulted history

1820
01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:44,429
which I'm going to talk about tomorrow

1821
01:20:50,780 --> 01:20:47,550
by way will show you the linkage between

1822
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:50,790
the ancient astronauts and today's new

1823
01:20:54,859 --> 01:20:53,400
world order it's the same folks and

1824
01:20:57,649 --> 01:20:54,869
they're still trying to run the planet

1825
01:21:00,439 --> 01:20:57,659
but anyway you know that's that's what's

1826
01:21:02,510 --> 01:21:00,449
going on and it's nothing new

1827
01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:02,520
it's been all throughout history so

1828
01:21:07,220 --> 01:21:05,340
therefore if the plan of the UFOs was to

1829
01:21:10,010 --> 01:21:07,230
invade the earth or to blow up our

1830
01:21:12,020 --> 01:21:10,020
cities and like War of the Worlds it

1831
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:12,030
common sense to tell you it should have

1832
01:21:17,020 --> 01:21:14,310
happened long before now why do you wait

1833
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:17,030
until we have nuclear weapons and laser

1834
01:21:19,700 --> 01:21:18,239
technology

1835
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:19,710
you know when they could have invaded

1836
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:21,690
this when all we had to defend ourselves

1837
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:25,020
with was spears come on folks you know

1838
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,409
they're obviously not overtly hostile

1839
01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:30,960
just his Nick Pope said I like what Nick

1840
01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:34,860
Pope said about tourism you know no

1841
01:21:40,459 --> 01:21:38,070
seriously I'm I did graduate work for

1842
01:21:42,620 --> 01:21:40,469
two years out at Lubbock Texas at Texas

1843
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:42,630
Tech and I had a lot of good friends out

1844
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:44,130
there and had a good time out there but

1845
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:45,679
I got to tell you Lubbock

1846
01:21:51,260 --> 01:21:48,960
that's kind of the that's way out in the

1847
01:21:53,839 --> 01:21:51,270
middle of nowhere and in fact and at

1848
01:21:55,939 --> 01:21:53,849
that time it was dry you had to drive

1849
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:55,949
all the way out of town to pinky's for

1850
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:57,449
he could get some beer or wine or

1851
01:22:02,540 --> 01:21:59,840
anything so there really wasn't much

1852
01:22:05,330 --> 01:22:02,550
action going on in Lubbock back in the

1853
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:05,340
day but I remember that on the weekends

1854
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,690
especially if the weather was nice

1855
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:08,880
they'd always be a collection of cars

1856
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,719
out at prairie dog town because they'd

1857
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:14,880
all go park out there with their

1858
01:22:20,209 --> 01:22:17,280
sweethearts and you sit on the fender of

1859
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:20,219
the hood of your car and you watch the

1860
01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:22,170
little prairie dogs scurry around and

1861
01:22:25,700 --> 01:22:23,790
running down the hole and get a little

1862
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:25,710
fight and then run over and gets up and

1863
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:27,690
run over there and it's oh look at

1864
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,449
aren't they so cute you know and so I've

1865
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:32,880
long suspected that some of these folks

1866
01:22:37,580 --> 01:22:35,010
are coming and hanging around and being

1867
01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:37,590
seen and not seen around the earth there

1868
01:22:41,279 --> 01:22:39,150
they're just here to look at the prairie

1869
01:22:46,359 --> 01:22:41,289
dogs

1870
01:22:48,430 --> 01:22:46,369
look at that guy you know so could be

1871
01:22:50,740 --> 01:22:48,440
but I don't think they're overtly

1872
01:22:54,399 --> 01:22:50,750
hostile or weird I heard something from

1873
01:22:55,810 --> 01:22:54,409
that a long time ago but here's what's

1874
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:55,820
scary

1875
01:23:00,399 --> 01:22:58,400
y'all may remember that President Ronald

1876
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:00,409
Reagan got up before the United Nations

1877
01:23:05,950 --> 01:23:03,199
and said you know maybe what we need is

1878
01:23:09,490 --> 01:23:05,960
a threat from space to bind the nations

1879
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:09,500
together you know and I've often

1880
01:23:15,129 --> 01:23:11,690
wondered was he just speculating or did

1881
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:15,139
he know something but I also know from

1882
01:23:20,770 --> 01:23:17,449
my sources that the plans are in

1883
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:20,780
government filing cabinets to either

1884
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:23,449
take advantage of something or to even

1885
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:26,090
create something we know today that they

1886
01:23:32,259 --> 01:23:28,489
have technology hidden away from the

1887
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:32,269
public that that's 10 20 30 years ahead

1888
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:34,880
of what's available to us this is one of

1889
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:37,130
the things that leads to effective

1890
01:23:42,819 --> 01:23:40,880
false-flag in for events because if they

1891
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:42,829
use the technology that's not commonly

1892
01:23:46,750 --> 01:23:44,510
known to the public then they put out

1893
01:23:48,879 --> 01:23:46,760
any cockamamie cover story they want and

1894
01:23:51,759 --> 01:23:48,889
there's hardly anybody that can give

1895
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:51,769
them a serious rebuttal so the idea is

1896
01:24:00,069 --> 01:23:56,480
is that if well in fact Verner von Braun

1897
01:24:02,649 --> 01:24:00,079
told Carol Rosen who I've met and talked

1898
01:24:04,330 --> 01:24:02,659
with was a head of Fairchild industry

1899
01:24:08,589 --> 01:24:04,340
and worked very closely with Vern Braun

1900
01:24:11,140 --> 01:24:08,599
Braun our top lead Nazi rocket scientist

1901
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:11,150
he said way back in the 70s he said

1902
01:24:17,140 --> 01:24:14,710
today the common enemy is is communism

1903
01:24:19,330 --> 01:24:17,150
world communism he said but when that

1904
01:24:22,299 --> 01:24:19,340
doesn't work anymore he said it'll be

1905
01:24:24,609 --> 01:24:22,309
international terrorism probably

1906
01:24:27,490 --> 01:24:24,619
centered in the Middle East well here we

1907
01:24:30,729 --> 01:24:27,500
are and he said and and it's it's

1908
01:24:33,069 --> 01:24:30,739
beginning to fade a little bit and get

1909
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:33,079
threadbare he said when that doesn't

1910
01:24:38,919 --> 01:24:35,210
work anymore it's going to be a threat

1911
01:24:40,779 --> 01:24:38,929
from space so what's really kind of

1912
01:24:43,209 --> 01:24:40,789
scary is is that we have technology

1913
01:24:46,299 --> 01:24:43,219
today where they might be able to put

1914
01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:46,309
Holograms in the sky they might be able

1915
01:24:50,060 --> 01:24:48,260
to create all kinds of things they might

1916
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:50,070
be able to create some

1917
01:24:55,970 --> 01:24:53,610
kind of a anti-gravity craft that would

1918
01:24:58,339 --> 01:24:55,980
seem totally alien to our current

1919
01:25:01,250 --> 01:24:58,349
technology and they might make us

1920
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:01,260
believe that we are facing a threat from

1921
01:25:07,370 --> 01:25:04,290
space just so they can say get everybody

1922
01:25:10,339 --> 01:25:07,380
fearful and giving up the last vestiges

1923
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:10,349
of our liberties so I think you guys

1924
01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:13,440
have an interest in UFOs you are the

1925
01:25:18,620 --> 01:25:16,710
vanguard of the watch that needs to be

1926
01:25:21,709 --> 01:25:18,630
watching very carefully to make sure

1927
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:21,719
that the parol unsuspecting public is

1928
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:24,510
not suckered into yet another false flag

1929
01:25:54,430 --> 01:25:52,170
operation any questions go ahead in my

1930
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,440
whole career as far as I know I was only

1931
01:25:59,089 --> 01:25:56,639
personally threatened one time and that

1932
01:26:00,890 --> 01:25:59,099
was not by the government now that was

1933
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:00,900
by a criminal that was a friend of Jack

1934
01:26:04,819 --> 01:26:03,360
Ruby's and he told me all this stuff and

1935
01:26:06,350 --> 01:26:04,829
then he said don't write about that or

1936
01:26:07,490 --> 01:26:06,360
I'll kill you and I said well wait a

1937
01:26:12,410 --> 01:26:07,500
minute you should have told me that

1938
01:26:14,510 --> 01:26:12,420
before you told me but now I have I have

1939
01:26:16,729 --> 01:26:14,520
been approached by sometimes about

1940
01:26:19,220 --> 01:26:16,739
people in positions of authorities who

1941
01:26:21,169 --> 01:26:19,230
very gently try to say maybe maybe y'all

1942
01:26:23,569 --> 01:26:21,179
not right about all that stuff but

1943
01:26:26,089 --> 01:26:23,579
that's to me he's no threat and and

1944
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:26,099
frankly ma'am I don't feel like that I'm

1945
01:26:31,459 --> 01:26:29,190
a direct threat to them number one I'm

1946
01:26:34,430 --> 01:26:31,469
too visible my books have been out there

1947
01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:34,440
for you know what 20 30 years if

1948
01:26:38,569 --> 01:26:36,329
something untoward happened to me it

1949
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:38,579
would only give me more credibility and

1950
01:26:42,589 --> 01:26:41,369
also and here's the key point like all

1951
01:26:43,669 --> 01:26:42,599
the stuff I just told you about the

1952
01:26:45,979 --> 01:26:43,679
Kennedy assassination

1953
01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:45,989
that's not conspiracy theory that's all

1954
01:26:50,450 --> 01:26:48,540
fact but this is stuff that I've learned

1955
01:26:53,629 --> 01:26:50,460
from other people from researching

1956
01:26:55,790 --> 01:26:53,639
looking at documents I it's 30 second

1957
01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:55,800
and third-hand information I'm not a

1958
01:26:59,410 --> 01:26:58,020
danger because I cannot go in and be

1959
01:27:01,600 --> 01:26:59,420
called into a court

1960
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:01,610
and raise my right hand and swear I

1961
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:03,890
heard something I saw something I am NOT

1962
01:27:10,510 --> 01:27:08,330
a first first person witness so I think

1963
01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:10,520
they there say look look at this group

1964
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:12,380
here tonight you know you guys are far

1965
01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:14,210
thinking I honor each and every one of

1966
01:27:18,130 --> 01:27:16,550
you for coming out of your homes and to

1967
01:27:20,020 --> 01:27:18,140
coming down here and to try to open your

1968
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:20,030
mind a little bit and expand your

1969
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:22,250
knowledge but think about it look we've

1970
01:27:28,270 --> 01:27:26,000
got what about 150 people here out of

1971
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:28,280
Del Rio and out of the Eagle passing out

1972
01:27:32,980 --> 01:27:30,290
of this whole population down here we're

1973
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:32,990
just you know they don't care they'll

1974
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:37,130
let us talk all night if we want to just

1975
01:27:39,670 --> 01:27:38,930
just don't get a million or two folks

1976
01:27:57,190 --> 01:27:39,680
upset

1977
01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:57,200
oh the space platforms over what the

1978
01:28:05,020 --> 01:27:58,730
naval and you're talking about the space

1979
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:07,870
right and and I don't know if this is

1980
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:09,440
the same one you're talking about but

1981
01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:10,910
they do have a they're working on a

1982
01:28:15,550 --> 01:28:13,310
suborbital craft and what I find really

1983
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:15,560
interesting is is that we already know

1984
01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:18,850
that they're calling it the Aurora and

1985
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:21,020
and I think y'all know why I think

1986
01:28:26,020 --> 01:28:23,840
that's pretty neat because one of the

1987
01:28:32,010 --> 01:28:26,030
areas that I've really investigated is

1988
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:32,020
the spaceship crash in Aurora Texas in

1989
01:28:38,830 --> 01:28:36,650
1897 okay now you know you know at that

1990
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:38,840
time this was six years before the

1991
01:28:43,930 --> 01:28:41,210
Wright brothers flew there was nothing

1992
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:43,940
man-made in the air and in fact and I've

1993
01:28:48,370 --> 01:28:45,650
had people go oh well they had hot air

1994
01:28:51,370 --> 01:28:48,380
balloons well yeah they did but they

1995
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:51,380
were always tethered they used hot air

1996
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:53,050
balloons in the War Between the States

1997
01:28:57,790 --> 01:28:56,000
when both sides would raise up these hot

1998
01:28:59,260 --> 01:28:57,800
air balloons and guys with binoculars

1999
01:29:01,780 --> 01:28:59,270
and they'd sit there and spot troop

2000
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:01,790
movements and give intelligence to what

2001
01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:04,130
the enemy was doing but those they were

2002
01:29:07,330 --> 01:29:05,750
always tethered they were always on the

2003
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:07,340
line they didn't roam up and they're

2004
01:29:13,500 --> 01:29:10,130
pulling back down the first powered

2005
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:13,510
balloon flight took place the same year

2006
01:29:18,910 --> 01:29:17,450
1904 that the Wright brothers flew and

2007
01:29:21,370 --> 01:29:18,920
this was and this was several years

2008
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:21,380
before that and so there was nothing

2009
01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:24,290
man-made here and I I've always thought

2010
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:26,240
because you know since I started dealing

2011
01:29:33,220 --> 01:29:28,930
with UFOs which goes back into the 1950s

2012
01:29:34,780 --> 01:29:33,230
there's a kid even there's always been

2013
01:29:36,820 --> 01:29:34,790
the argument well they're just secret

2014
01:29:38,650 --> 01:29:36,830
government test craft you know there's

2015
01:29:41,020 --> 01:29:38,660
some ice testing some stuff that we

2016
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:41,030
haven't seen and that's a legitimate

2017
01:29:46,690 --> 01:29:43,610
argument not I listen quite seriously to

2018
01:29:49,570 --> 01:29:46,700
that of course I also listen to at first

2019
01:29:54,970 --> 01:29:49,580
to the very serious argument that it was

2020
01:29:57,010 --> 01:29:54,980
just a mass hallucination you know and

2021
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:57,020
but then as I got to be a reporter I

2022
01:30:04,030 --> 01:29:59,600
thought wait a minute you know a a

2023
01:30:08,260 --> 01:30:04,040
heretofore unknown contagious mass

2024
01:30:10,150 --> 01:30:08,270
psychosis god what a story but you don't

2025
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:10,160
hear that anymore because it's not true

2026
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:12,050
and the thing that put all that to rest

2027
01:30:17,710 --> 01:30:15,170
about hallucinations or psychosis was

2028
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:17,720
that was the internet and cell phones

2029
01:30:21,070 --> 01:30:18,650
and

2030
01:30:22,630 --> 01:30:21,080
camcorders because all of a sudden

2031
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:22,640
anybody and everybody was taking

2032
01:30:29,190 --> 01:30:25,010
pictures of UFOs go up on the Internet

2033
01:30:31,570 --> 01:30:29,200
go googled UFO and and and images and

2034
01:30:33,850 --> 01:30:31,580
it'll keep you occupied for months

2035
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:33,860
they're just all up there you know so

2036
01:30:37,630 --> 01:30:35,810
you can't you never hear the argument

2037
01:30:42,430 --> 01:30:37,640
anymore that they're just hallucinations

2038
01:30:45,460 --> 01:30:42,440
or some kind of undiagnosed contagious

2039
01:30:47,020 --> 01:30:45,470
mass psychosis all right but that but

2040
01:30:49,930 --> 01:30:47,030
you still hear the argument that their

2041
01:30:51,850 --> 01:30:49,940
government tests craft well okay but

2042
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:51,860
what about 1897

2043
01:30:56,140 --> 01:30:53,530
there was nothing man-made in the air

2044
01:30:57,850 --> 01:30:56,150
and yet those stories were covered in

2045
01:31:00,580 --> 01:30:57,860
the forward papers in the Dallas time

2046
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:00,590
Dallas Morning News which is still in

2047
01:31:05,260 --> 01:31:03,050
publication and here's one those who get

2048
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:05,270
a little too clue as to what's going on

2049
01:31:09,730 --> 01:31:08,090
when I was in the microfilm records of

2050
01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:09,740
the old Fort Worth record the newspaper

2051
01:31:14,410 --> 01:31:11,780
that predated the Star Telegram a

2052
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:14,420
forerunner of a starter Graham I came

2053
01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:15,890
across an article that was written at

2054
01:31:21,370 --> 01:31:17,780
that same time period in the spring of

2055
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:21,380
1897 about a railroad track inspector

2056
01:31:26,740 --> 01:31:24,710
from Fort Worth who one day was

2057
01:31:28,540 --> 01:31:26,750
inspecting railroad track up north of

2058
01:31:30,250 --> 01:31:28,550
Fort Worth and it started getting late

2059
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:30,260
in the day whose bat raid turned back

2060
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:32,930
and head back to the city when he

2061
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:34,970
noticed a very bright light of a head

2062
01:31:40,690 --> 01:31:37,730
now keep in mind 1897 yes in a few

2063
01:31:42,370 --> 01:31:40,700
places New York Boston maybe Dallas they

2064
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:42,380
had a few electric lights but most

2065
01:31:46,990 --> 01:31:44,690
people didn't have electricity in 1897

2066
01:31:48,910 --> 01:31:47,000
and to see a bright light when it was

2067
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:48,920
starting to get dark obviously probably

2068
01:31:54,220 --> 01:31:51,050
would caught his attention imagination

2069
01:31:56,110 --> 01:31:54,230
so he continues on up the track and he

2070
01:31:58,150 --> 01:31:56,120
said he found a large silver cigar

2071
01:32:00,670 --> 01:31:58,160
shaped object sitting on the tracks and

2072
01:32:03,850 --> 01:32:00,680
he said the crew they were dressed in

2073
01:32:06,220 --> 01:32:03,860
uniforms were working around this craft

2074
01:32:09,630 --> 01:32:06,230
and he said he had a conversation with

2075
01:32:12,010 --> 01:32:09,640
the commander and he never made any

2076
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:12,020
statements to win it and of course the

2077
01:32:16,900 --> 01:32:14,480
first thing the commander said was don't

2078
01:32:19,660 --> 01:32:16,910
tell anybody you've seen us and of

2079
01:32:21,850 --> 01:32:19,670
course true to human form he ran right

2080
01:32:24,610 --> 01:32:21,860
back to the city and told the newspaper

2081
01:32:28,060 --> 01:32:24,620
what he had seen but he said and but he

2082
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:28,070
didn't make any comment about the looks

2083
01:32:32,410 --> 01:32:30,110
and he seemed to have understood what

2084
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:32,420
the commander of the ship was talking to

2085
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:34,370
so it's kind of interesting that they

2086
01:32:40,450 --> 01:32:37,730
either are like us or can appear to be

2087
01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:40,460
like us but he said the commander told

2088
01:32:46,030 --> 01:32:43,490
him don't tell anybody that about us

2089
01:32:51,340 --> 01:32:46,040
because we're on a secret mission said

2090
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,350
we're on our way to bomb Havana now this

2091
01:32:56,890 --> 01:32:53,600
to me is fascinating because this is the

2092
01:33:00,670 --> 01:32:56,900
spring of 1897 it was not until the

2093
01:33:02,530 --> 01:33:00,680
spring of 1898 a year later that the

2094
01:33:05,170 --> 01:33:02,540
battleship Maine blew up in Havana

2095
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:05,180
Harbor and that launched us into the

2096
01:33:09,940 --> 01:33:07,970
spanish-american war where Teddy

2097
01:33:14,110 --> 01:33:09,950
Roosevelt fought the Battle of San Juan

2098
01:33:16,210 --> 01:33:14,120
Hill and in on Cuba and that Admiral

2099
01:33:18,490 --> 01:33:16,220
Dewey I think you know says damn the

2100
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:18,500
torpedoes and they steamed in and took

2101
01:33:22,780 --> 01:33:22,010
the Philippines and had a big war but

2102
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:22,790
wait a minute

2103
01:33:28,660 --> 01:33:25,310
that supposedly just only happened with

2104
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:28,670
the explosion of the battleship Maine a

2105
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:31,130
year later how did this guy know we're

2106
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:34,370
gonna be fighting in in Havana which

2107
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:36,770
tells me that they have some kind of

2108
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:40,370
time travel capability and I'm pretty

2109
01:33:44,860 --> 01:33:42,410
certain of that because one of the most

2110
01:33:47,530 --> 01:33:44,870
interesting I've interviewed dozen dozen

2111
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:47,540
people who claimed to have experiences

2112
01:33:53,230 --> 01:33:50,000
and being taken up in ships etcetera etc

2113
01:33:55,330 --> 01:33:53,240
in fact one dear lady was trying to tell

2114
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:55,340
me that you know she was in bed and she

2115
01:33:59,800 --> 01:33:57,440
couldn't move and I guess I was kind of

2116
01:34:01,840 --> 01:33:59,810
looking looked off or something and she

2117
01:34:03,670 --> 01:34:01,850
said young pins and aren't you

2118
01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:03,680
interested in what happened to me and I

2119
01:34:07,210 --> 01:34:05,630
said well yes I am ma'am I said but your

2120
01:34:11,230 --> 01:34:07,220
story sounds exactly like the last

2121
01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:11,240
hundred heard you know yeah this is this

2122
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:14,150
is happening okay and I really care

2123
01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:16,610
about your individual case but you're

2124
01:34:20,860 --> 01:34:18,830
not the only one but one of the most

2125
01:34:23,380 --> 01:34:20,870
fascinating ones was a fellow that I

2126
01:34:26,530 --> 01:34:23,390
talked to up in the Northeast some years

2127
01:34:28,300 --> 01:34:26,540
back and he told me the story of he said

2128
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:28,310
he had been taken ever since he was a

2129
01:34:33,820 --> 01:34:31,010
young boy and said initially it just

2130
01:34:36,730 --> 01:34:33,830
scared him to death but you know as is

2131
01:34:38,979 --> 01:34:36,740
the human condition you know anything

2132
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:38,989
doesn't kill you you tend to get used

2133
01:34:43,390 --> 01:34:41,210
it he said after a while he'd get these

2134
01:34:45,580 --> 01:34:43,400
feelings and you go oh brother here it

2135
01:34:47,950 --> 01:34:45,590
comes again and sure enough they'd take

2136
01:34:49,899 --> 01:34:47,960
him and off he'd go so he said one night

2137
01:34:52,750 --> 01:34:49,909
he was in his apartment he was watching

2138
01:34:54,669 --> 01:34:52,760
television and he got thirsty so he got

2139
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:54,679
up he went around into his kitchenette

2140
01:34:59,890 --> 01:34:57,130
area open the refrigerator pulled out a

2141
01:35:02,080 --> 01:34:59,900
can of I don't know beer soft drink but

2142
01:35:05,950 --> 01:35:02,090
it was a can with a tab top and you know

2143
01:35:07,839 --> 01:35:05,960
that very distinctive you know he opens

2144
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:07,849
the can goes back around ladies on the

2145
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:10,610
divan sipping his drink watching the TV

2146
01:35:15,189 --> 01:35:12,530
and he started getting that feeling like

2147
01:35:16,989 --> 01:35:15,199
oh oh it's gonna happen again sure

2148
01:35:19,209 --> 01:35:16,999
enough next thing he knows he's on the

2149
01:35:20,620 --> 01:35:19,219
ship and they're talking to him and

2150
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,630
they're poking him and prodding even

2151
01:35:25,390 --> 01:35:22,880
they're doing their thing and said the

2152
01:35:27,759 --> 01:35:25,400
next thing he knew he was back in his

2153
01:35:30,819 --> 01:35:27,769
apartment laying on the divan watching

2154
01:35:32,739 --> 01:35:30,829
TV and he said just as he was beginning

2155
01:35:34,089 --> 01:35:32,749
to get his wits about him he hears

2156
01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:34,099
somebody in the kitchen open the

2157
01:35:40,270 --> 01:35:37,670
refrigerator door and he hears that of

2158
01:35:43,979 --> 01:35:40,280
the soft drink and and he looks up and

2159
01:35:47,620 --> 01:35:43,989
he said in just the time it took him to

2160
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:47,630
see and recognize what he was seeing he

2161
01:35:53,470 --> 01:35:50,690
saw himself coming around the corner

2162
01:35:55,689 --> 01:35:53,480
into the living room and then he just in

2163
01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:55,699
just an instant just long enough for him

2164
01:36:01,089 --> 01:35:58,880
to to recognize what he was seeing it

2165
01:36:03,970 --> 01:36:01,099
faded away and went away and he was back

2166
01:36:06,250 --> 01:36:03,980
on the divan now I don't know about you

2167
01:36:07,959 --> 01:36:06,260
guys but that tells me that they had and

2168
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:07,969
we all know about lost time

2169
01:36:12,609 --> 01:36:10,639
they have the ability to take you keep

2170
01:36:14,919 --> 01:36:12,619
you for days on in and then bringing you

2171
01:36:17,319 --> 01:36:14,929
back essentially at the same time they

2172
01:36:19,979 --> 01:36:17,329
took you except in this instance they

2173
01:36:23,410 --> 01:36:19,989
were just off by a few seconds you know

2174
01:36:24,729 --> 01:36:23,420
so that's really fascinating and the

2175
01:36:27,609 --> 01:36:24,739
other thing I want to leave you on kind

2176
01:36:28,959 --> 01:36:27,619
of a positive note is that there have

2177
01:36:31,149 --> 01:36:28,969
there are some people who claim that

2178
01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:31,159
that they're taking people and killing

2179
01:36:36,580 --> 01:36:33,679
them you know and there is some

2180
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:36,590
interesting allegations coming out of

2181
01:36:42,370 --> 01:36:39,530
foreign countries but in all my years of

2182
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:42,380
study in the UFO situation I don't

2183
01:36:48,250 --> 01:36:45,050
really know of any well-documented case

2184
01:36:48,629 --> 01:36:48,260
of a human who got taken and never came

2185
01:36:59,230 --> 01:36:48,639
back

2186
01:37:02,050 --> 01:36:59,240
we're running out of 10 degrees Mako

2187
01:37:05,470 --> 01:37:02,060
then I think that we are being very very

2188
01:37:07,870 --> 01:37:05,480
close to disclosure I think it can

2189
01:37:10,900 --> 01:37:07,880
happen this year next year or surgery

2190
01:37:12,610 --> 01:37:10,910
the next few years and media Addison

2191
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:12,620
you're in continuing the decision

2192
01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:14,930
because the government is our makers and

2193
01:37:24,460 --> 01:37:22,910
only relatives I thought you and some of

2194
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:24,470
this is actually a pretty exciting time